Re: [91attendees] Social event cost

Stephen Botzko <stephen.botzko@gmail.com> Thu, 13 November 2014 20:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [91attendees] Social event cost
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I think the social event would fail if the cost exceeded what most
businesses will reimburse.

So while I agree that some would go anyway, I think it establishes a
reasonable upper bound what hosts should charge - if they wouldn't fully
reimburse their own employees for participating, they are charging too much.

In this particular case, the charge was within my own company's guidelines,
and I found it enjoyable and worthwhile.

Stephen

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> wrote:

>  -1.
> The social event is a great opportunity to get business done and to
> socialize at the same time—and a quite effective one if employed
> correctly.  Many sponsors understand that.  Some don’t.  However, even if I
> had to pick up cost the myself, I would gladly do it for the opportunity.
> There is no law that one is prohibited to pick up a part of the expenses in
> a business trip oneself (at least not in any of my previous jobs)
> Stephan
>
>   From: Stephen Botzko <stephen.botzko@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 10:08
> To: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
> Cc: Alan Whinery <whinery@hawaii.edu>, 91attendees <91attendees@ietf.org>
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> Subject: Re: [91attendees] Social event cost
>
>   +1
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:07 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) <
> keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
>
>> I would note that while the social event cost is below what I can
>> reasonable expense for an evening meal, I will probably participate. As
>> soon as it goes above that, then I will give it a miss.
>>
>> I have certainly heard that view expressed by others in the past as well.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: 91attendees [mailto:91attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> > Behalf Of Alan Whinery
>>  > Sent: 13 November 2014 20:03
>> > To: 91attendees
>> > Subject: Re: [91attendees] Social event cost
>> >
>> > On 11/13/2014 10:01 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> > > On 13 Nov 2014, at 07:13, Alan Whinery <whinery@hawaii.edu> wrote:
>> > >> Just data:
>> > >> IEEE [...] $120.
>> > > This gives a reliable upper bound for the actual cost,
>> > because IEEE conferences are designed to make money for IEEE.
>> > >
>> > > Grüße, Carsten
>> > >
>> > Add inflation for fuel price, if not other factors.
>> >
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