Re: [99attendees] ietf-hotel experience

[Massimiliano Pala <[e-mail]>]

Hi Randy,

thanks for all the tips. Inline:

On 7/18/17 9:29 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> [...]
> *when not in room*  i.e. when in meetings on the ietf-not-hotel of your
> choice
Usually "ietf" or "ietf-nat64". However, I use one of my devices *only* 
in the room and still it won't get on the network (sorry I missed the 
*not* from your e-mail.. :D I am not very productive in the morning 
before my coffee... especially the 2nd day in Europe)
>> I totally understand that getting the network of the hotel up to
>> standards is a very challenging task. But this is not the first time
>> the meeting is held here, right?
> first, the hotel room infrastructure (from mdf to your room) is not
> under ietf control.  the hilton 'improved' the in-room wireless
> infrastructure since our last visit, installing new wireless gear and a
> *lot* of access points.  wireless geeks will tell you that more access
> points and turning up the power are not recipes for success.
>
>> I wonder if this is related to IETF budget allocation (e.g. Not enough
>> funds for the networking infrastructure update)... ???
> uh, the ietf may not see it as in its purview to pay for and direct
> hiltons on their infrastructure.
>
>> I hope they will be able to fix this ... people need to work after the
>> sessions end.. :-) If not even the IETF noc can not fix the
>> issues.. maybe this hotel should not be on the IETF radar for our
>> meetings in the future...???
> ietf hotels are negotiated years in advance and often change their
> infrastructure in the interim.  and the ietf attendee load is
> sufficiently abnormal that site visits can not test how the hotel's
> infrastructure will hold up to 900 attendees all streaming game of
> thrones at the same time.
I definitely understand all these aspects.. and I know people works very 
hard and I do appreciate the amazing work and effort that people put 
into supporting IETF - which I love and that is the reason I always want 
to contribute to IETF activities :D This said, however, in the end, what 
counts is the final result and, so far, compared to many other meetings, 
the in-room networking is one of the worst... :D

Last thing, */I tried to send an e-mail to [e-mail] but 
I the message was rejected (both from Gmail and from office365)/* [*] 
... so, so far, I was not able to even report the issue :-( I will try 
from another domain... hopefully that will go through...

Cheers,
Max

P.S.: I just want to re-iterate my appreciation for all the work done by 
the many people who manage to put together such wonderful meetings for 
so many years :D

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See technical details below for more information. Same error from office365.

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Best Regards,
Massimiliano Pala, Ph.D.
CableLabs
Principal Architect
Security Services, R&D