Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm)

Black_David@emc.com Tue, 28 April 2009 12:19 UTC

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I think it would be reasonable for the proposed storm WG to do MIB
work, but I am not aware of current interest in this activity.  If
you're interested and volunteering to do this, please let me know ...

Thanks,
--David
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Harrington
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:10 PM
> To: 'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'; aaa-doctors@ietf.org; ops-dir@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage 
> Maintenance (storm)
> 
> Will the storm BOF address updating the MIB modules or address
> managing the protocols in other ways?
> 
> dbh 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org 
> > [mailto:ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:57 PM
> > To: aaa-doctors@ietf.org; ops-dir@ietf.org
> > Subject: [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance
> (storm)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> > Behalf Of
> > IESG Secretary
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:54 PM
> > To: iesg@ietf.org; iab@iab.org
> > Cc: black_david@emc.com
> > Subject: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm) 
> > 
> > A new IETF working group is being considered in the Transport 
> > Area.  The
> > draft charter for this working group is provided below for your
> review
> > and comment.
> > 
> > Review time is one week.
> > 
> > The IETF Secretariat
> > 
> > STORage Maintenance (storm)
> > ----------------------------------
> > 
> > Last Modified: 2009-04-25
> > 
> > Current Status: Proposed Working Group
> > 
> > Chairs:
> > - David L. Black <black_david@emc.com>
> > - tbd
> > 
> > Transport Area Director(s):
> > - Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> > - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
> > 
> > Transport Area Advisor:
> > - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
> > 
> > Mailing Lists:
> > General Discussion: storm@ietf.org
> > To Subscribe: storm-request@ietf.org
> > In Body: (un)subscribe
> > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/storm/index.html
> > 
> > Description of Working Group:
> > 
> > The IETF IPS (IP Storage) and RDDP (Remote Direct Data Placement)
> > working groups have produced a significant number of storage
> protocols
> > (e.g., iSCSI, iSER and FCIP) for which there is significant usage.
> The
> > time has come to reflect feedback from implementation and usage into
> > updated RFCs; this work may include:
> > 
> > - Implementation-driven revisions and updates to existing protocols
> > (i.e., updated RFCs that match the "running code").
> > 
> > - Interoperability reports as needed for the resulting 
> > revised protocols
> > that are appropriate for Draft Standard RFC status.
> > 
> > - Minor protocol changes or additions. Backwards compatibility is
> > required.
> > 
> > Significant changes to the existing protocol standards are 
> > out of scope,
> > including any work on version 2 of any of these protocols.
> > 
> > Stability is critical to the usage of these protocols, so backwards
> > compatibility with existing implementations will be a requirement
> > imposed on for all protocol changes and additions. Note that this is
> a
> > requirement for implementation compatibility - if it is the case
> that
> > all implementations of a protocol have done something different than
> > what the RFC specifies, it is appropriate for a new RFC to 
> > document what
> > the "running code" actually does and deprecate the unused original
> > behavior.
> > 
> > Initial list of work items:
> > 
> > (1) iSCSI: Combine RFCs 3720 (iSCSI), 3980 (NAA names), 4850 (node
> > architecture key) and 5048 (corrections/clarifications) into one
> draft
> > (3720bis), removing features that are not implemented in 
> > practice. This
> > draft should be prepared so that it could become a Draft Standard
> RFC,
> > but it is up to the to decide whether to advance it to Draft
> Standard.
> > 
> > (2) iSCSI: Add features to support SAM-4 (4th version of the SCSI
> > architecture) in a backwards-compatible fashion, as iSCSI is
> currently
> > based on SAM-2. This will be a separate draft from the iSCSI update
> in
> > the previous bullet. The Working group may add additional minor
> useful
> > iSCSI features to this draft.
> > 
> > (3) FCIP: IP Protocol number 133 was allocated to a precursor of the
> > FCIP protocol in 2000, but this allocated number is not used by
> FCIP.
> > The working group will consider whether this allocated number 
> > should be
> > returned to IANA for future reallocation.
> > 
> > (4) iFCP: The Address Translation mode of iFCP needs to be
> deprecated
> > (SHOULD NOT implement or use), as there are significant technical
> > problems with its specification, and moreover, only the Address
> > Transparent mode of iFCP is in use. This will be done via a 
> > short draft
> > that updates RFC 4172, and not via a complete rewrite of RFC 4172. A
> > combined draft is expected that encompasses items (3) and (4).
> > 
> > (5) RDDP MPA: Good support for MPI applications requires a 
> > small update
> > to the startup functionality to allow either end of the connection
> to
> > initiate.
> > 
> > (6) iSER: Experience with Infiniband implementations suggest 
> > a few minor
> > updates to reflect what has been done in practice.
> > 
> > The working group is expected to maintain good working relationships
> > with INCITS Technical Committee T10 (SCSI standards) and INCITS
> > Technical Committee T11 (Fibre Channel standards) via overlaps in
> > membership as opposed to appointment of formal liaisons. The liaison
> > process (including IAB appointment of a liaison or
> > liaisons) remains available for use if needed.
> > 
> > Goals and Milestones:
> > 
> > June 2009 First version of FCIP protocol number and iFCP Address
> > Translation mode draft
> > 
> > July 2009 First version of iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features
> draft.
> > 
> > Aug 2009 First version of RDDP MPA startup change draft
> > 
> > Sep 2009 Working Group Last Call on FCIP protocol number and iFCP
> > address change draft
> > 
> > Sep 2009 First version of combined iSCSI draft (3720bis)
> > 
> > Oct 2009 First version of iSER update draft
> > 
> > Oct 2009 Working Group Last Call on RDDP MPA startup change draft.
> > 
> > Dec 2009 Functionally complete iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features
> > draft.
> > 
> > Feb 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSER update draft
> > 
> > March 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new
> > features draft.
> > 
> > April 2010 Working Group decision on whether to seek Draft 
> > Standard RFC
> > status for the combined iSCSI draft (3720bis). [Note:
> > decision may be made significantly before this date.]
> > 
> > Sep 2010 Working Group Last Call on combined iSCSI draft (3720bis)
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