Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm)
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I think it would be reasonable for the proposed storm WG to do MIB work, but I am not aware of current interest in this activity. If you're interested and volunteering to do this, please let me know ... Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Harrington > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:10 PM > To: 'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'; aaa-doctors@ietf.org; ops-dir@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage > Maintenance (storm) > > Will the storm BOF address updating the MIB modules or address > managing the protocols in other ways? > > dbh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:57 PM > > To: aaa-doctors@ietf.org; ops-dir@ietf.org > > Subject: [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance > (storm) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of > > IESG Secretary > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:54 PM > > To: iesg@ietf.org; iab@iab.org > > Cc: black_david@emc.com > > Subject: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm) > > > > A new IETF working group is being considered in the Transport > > Area. The > > draft charter for this working group is provided below for your > review > > and comment. > > > > Review time is one week. > > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > STORage Maintenance (storm) > > ---------------------------------- > > > > Last Modified: 2009-04-25 > > > > Current Status: Proposed Working Group > > > > Chairs: > > - David L. Black <black_david@emc.com> > > - tbd > > > > Transport Area Director(s): > > - Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> > > - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> > > > > Transport Area Advisor: > > - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> > > > > Mailing Lists: > > General Discussion: storm@ietf.org > > To Subscribe: storm-request@ietf.org > > In Body: (un)subscribe > > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/storm/index.html > > > > Description of Working Group: > > > > The IETF IPS (IP Storage) and RDDP (Remote Direct Data Placement) > > working groups have produced a significant number of storage > protocols > > (e.g., iSCSI, iSER and FCIP) for which there is significant usage. > The > > time has come to reflect feedback from implementation and usage into > > updated RFCs; this work may include: > > > > - Implementation-driven revisions and updates to existing protocols > > (i.e., updated RFCs that match the "running code"). > > > > - Interoperability reports as needed for the resulting > > revised protocols > > that are appropriate for Draft Standard RFC status. > > > > - Minor protocol changes or additions. Backwards compatibility is > > required. > > > > Significant changes to the existing protocol standards are > > out of scope, > > including any work on version 2 of any of these protocols. > > > > Stability is critical to the usage of these protocols, so backwards > > compatibility with existing implementations will be a requirement > > imposed on for all protocol changes and additions. Note that this is > a > > requirement for implementation compatibility - if it is the case > that > > all implementations of a protocol have done something different than > > what the RFC specifies, it is appropriate for a new RFC to > > document what > > the "running code" actually does and deprecate the unused original > > behavior. > > > > Initial list of work items: > > > > (1) iSCSI: Combine RFCs 3720 (iSCSI), 3980 (NAA names), 4850 (node > > architecture key) and 5048 (corrections/clarifications) into one > draft > > (3720bis), removing features that are not implemented in > > practice. This > > draft should be prepared so that it could become a Draft Standard > RFC, > > but it is up to the to decide whether to advance it to Draft > Standard. > > > > (2) iSCSI: Add features to support SAM-4 (4th version of the SCSI > > architecture) in a backwards-compatible fashion, as iSCSI is > currently > > based on SAM-2. This will be a separate draft from the iSCSI update > in > > the previous bullet. The Working group may add additional minor > useful > > iSCSI features to this draft. > > > > (3) FCIP: IP Protocol number 133 was allocated to a precursor of the > > FCIP protocol in 2000, but this allocated number is not used by > FCIP. > > The working group will consider whether this allocated number > > should be > > returned to IANA for future reallocation. > > > > (4) iFCP: The Address Translation mode of iFCP needs to be > deprecated > > (SHOULD NOT implement or use), as there are significant technical > > problems with its specification, and moreover, only the Address > > Transparent mode of iFCP is in use. This will be done via a > > short draft > > that updates RFC 4172, and not via a complete rewrite of RFC 4172. A > > combined draft is expected that encompasses items (3) and (4). > > > > (5) RDDP MPA: Good support for MPI applications requires a > > small update > > to the startup functionality to allow either end of the connection > to > > initiate. > > > > (6) iSER: Experience with Infiniband implementations suggest > > a few minor > > updates to reflect what has been done in practice. > > > > The working group is expected to maintain good working relationships > > with INCITS Technical Committee T10 (SCSI standards) and INCITS > > Technical Committee T11 (Fibre Channel standards) via overlaps in > > membership as opposed to appointment of formal liaisons. The liaison > > process (including IAB appointment of a liaison or > > liaisons) remains available for use if needed. > > > > Goals and Milestones: > > > > June 2009 First version of FCIP protocol number and iFCP Address > > Translation mode draft > > > > July 2009 First version of iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features > draft. > > > > Aug 2009 First version of RDDP MPA startup change draft > > > > Sep 2009 Working Group Last Call on FCIP protocol number and iFCP > > address change draft > > > > Sep 2009 First version of combined iSCSI draft (3720bis) > > > > Oct 2009 First version of iSER update draft > > > > Oct 2009 Working Group Last Call on RDDP MPA startup change draft. > > > > Dec 2009 Functionally complete iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features > > draft. > > > > Feb 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSER update draft > > > > March 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new > > features draft. > > > > April 2010 Working Group decision on whether to seek Draft > > Standard RFC > > status for the combined iSCSI draft (3720bis). [Note: > > decision may be made significantly before this date.] > > > > Sep 2010 Working Group Last Call on combined iSCSI draft (3720bis) > > _______________________________________________ > > OPS-DIR mailing list > > OPS-DIR@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-dir > > > > _______________________________________________ > OPS-DIR mailing list > OPS-DIR@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-dir > >
- [AAA-DOCTORS] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Mai… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Lars Eggert
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Lars Eggert
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… David Harrington
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Black_David
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Revie… Lars Eggert