Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm)

"David Harrington" <ietfdbh@comcast.net> Thu, 30 April 2009 12:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm)
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 Hi,

SAM-4 compatibility is an explicit goal of the charter.
The T10 website says "Only T10 members are permitted to access this
document"

Will the SAM-4 documents be made freely available to
members/participants of the STORM WG?

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ops-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
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> Subject: [OPS-DIR] FW: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance
(storm)
> 
>  
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> -----Original Message-----
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> IESG Secretary
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> Cc: black_david@emc.com
> Subject: Internal WG Review: STORage Maintenance (storm) 
> 
> A new IETF working group is being considered in the Transport 
> Area.  The
> draft charter for this working group is provided below for your
review
> and comment.
> 
> Review time is one week.
> 
> The IETF Secretariat
> 
> STORage Maintenance (storm)
> ----------------------------------
> 
> Last Modified: 2009-04-25
> 
> Current Status: Proposed Working Group
> 
> Chairs:
> - David L. Black <black_david@emc.com>
> - tbd
> 
> Transport Area Director(s):
> - Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
> 
> Transport Area Advisor:
> - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
> 
> Mailing Lists:
> General Discussion: storm@ietf.org
> To Subscribe: storm-request@ietf.org
> In Body: (un)subscribe
> Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/storm/index.html
> 
> Description of Working Group:
> 
> The IETF IPS (IP Storage) and RDDP (Remote Direct Data Placement)
> working groups have produced a significant number of storage
protocols
> (e.g., iSCSI, iSER and FCIP) for which there is significant usage.
The
> time has come to reflect feedback from implementation and usage into
> updated RFCs; this work may include:
> 
> - Implementation-driven revisions and updates to existing protocols
> (i.e., updated RFCs that match the "running code").
> 
> - Interoperability reports as needed for the resulting 
> revised protocols
> that are appropriate for Draft Standard RFC status.
> 
> - Minor protocol changes or additions. Backwards compatibility is
> required.
> 
> Significant changes to the existing protocol standards are 
> out of scope,
> including any work on version 2 of any of these protocols.
> 
> Stability is critical to the usage of these protocols, so backwards
> compatibility with existing implementations will be a requirement
> imposed on for all protocol changes and additions. Note that this is
a
> requirement for implementation compatibility - if it is the case
that
> all implementations of a protocol have done something different than
> what the RFC specifies, it is appropriate for a new RFC to 
> document what
> the "running code" actually does and deprecate the unused original
> behavior.
> 
> Initial list of work items:
> 
> (1) iSCSI: Combine RFCs 3720 (iSCSI), 3980 (NAA names), 4850 (node
> architecture key) and 5048 (corrections/clarifications) into one
draft
> (3720bis), removing features that are not implemented in 
> practice. This
> draft should be prepared so that it could become a Draft Standard
RFC,
> but it is up to the to decide whether to advance it to Draft
Standard.
> 
> (2) iSCSI: Add features to support SAM-4 (4th version of the SCSI
> architecture) in a backwards-compatible fashion, as iSCSI is
currently
> based on SAM-2. This will be a separate draft from the iSCSI update
in
> the previous bullet. The Working group may add additional minor
useful
> iSCSI features to this draft.
> 
> (3) FCIP: IP Protocol number 133 was allocated to a precursor of the
> FCIP protocol in 2000, but this allocated number is not used by
FCIP.
> The working group will consider whether this allocated number 
> should be
> returned to IANA for future reallocation.
> 
> (4) iFCP: The Address Translation mode of iFCP needs to be
deprecated
> (SHOULD NOT implement or use), as there are significant technical
> problems with its specification, and moreover, only the Address
> Transparent mode of iFCP is in use. This will be done via a 
> short draft
> that updates RFC 4172, and not via a complete rewrite of RFC 4172. A
> combined draft is expected that encompasses items (3) and (4).
> 
> (5) RDDP MPA: Good support for MPI applications requires a 
> small update
> to the startup functionality to allow either end of the connection
to
> initiate.
> 
> (6) iSER: Experience with Infiniband implementations suggest 
> a few minor
> updates to reflect what has been done in practice.
> 
> The working group is expected to maintain good working relationships
> with INCITS Technical Committee T10 (SCSI standards) and INCITS
> Technical Committee T11 (Fibre Channel standards) via overlaps in
> membership as opposed to appointment of formal liaisons. The liaison
> process (including IAB appointment of a liaison or
> liaisons) remains available for use if needed.
> 
> Goals and Milestones:
> 
> June 2009 First version of FCIP protocol number and iFCP Address
> Translation mode draft
> 
> July 2009 First version of iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features
draft.
> 
> Aug 2009 First version of RDDP MPA startup change draft
> 
> Sep 2009 Working Group Last Call on FCIP protocol number and iFCP
> address change draft
> 
> Sep 2009 First version of combined iSCSI draft (3720bis)
> 
> Oct 2009 First version of iSER update draft
> 
> Oct 2009 Working Group Last Call on RDDP MPA startup change draft.
> 
> Dec 2009 Functionally complete iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features
> draft.
> 
> Feb 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSER update draft
> 
> March 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new
> features draft.
> 
> April 2010 Working Group decision on whether to seek Draft 
> Standard RFC
> status for the combined iSCSI draft (3720bis). [Note:
> decision may be made significantly before this date.]
> 
> Sep 2010 Working Group Last Call on combined iSCSI draft (3720bis)
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