Re: [Acme] Current Charter language
stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Fri, 15 May 2015 19:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Acme] Current Charter language
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On Fri May 15 20:31:00 2015 GMT+0100, ⌘ Matt Miller wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 5/15/15 1:20 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Stephen Farrell > > <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 15/05/15 19:38, Ted Hardie wrote: > >> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Stephen Farrell > >> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 15/05/15 19:09, Salz, Rich wrote: > >>>> Any other obvious edits needed? > >>> > >>> LGTM > >> > >> (no hats) > >> > >> Me too. I like it and figure it's good enough. > >> > >> The only thing I'd suggest maybe adding is the illustrative goal > >> that an "apt-get install apache" should be able to get the > >> required certificates for a web server automatically, if there is > >> an acme server that is willing to automate that far. And that a > >> subsequent "apt-get upgrade" on that box should ensure that the > >> certificate stuff needed for that apache install gets renewed if > >> necessary. > >> > >> I can see that it might be tricky to phrase that in language that > >> works in a charter though, but maybe someone's feeling nicely > >> creative. > >> > >> > >> Well, at the moment we says this: > >> > >> "All of the processing must be done in a manner that is > >> compatible with common service deployment environments, such as > >> hosting environments." > >> > >> Perhaps we can add something just after like this: > >> > >> "Simplicity in certificate installation and maintenance are key > >> design goals. Enabling this process to be incorporated into the > >> standard installation and upgrades of web servers via a single > >> command line invocation or flag would be especially desirable". > >> > >> That's less catchy than "apt-get install acme-cert", but it may > >> be more charter-y. > >> > >> Is that worth doing? > > I like it anyway. I'm fine if you'd prefer to go ahead without it > > though, > > > > > > I like the charter better without it, tbh. I don't think there's > > any ambiguity in what we're after in this dimension :) > > > > > > I agree with Richard, FWIW. > > And +1 on the rest of the existing charter. SHIPIT. Fair nuff I can live with(out) it S > > > - -- > - - m&m > > Matt Miller < mamille2@cisco.com > > Cisco Systems, Inc. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org > > iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVVkl0AAoJEDWi+S0W7cO1mA4H/R85YcL8VDmICG6ebl/G1tSn > NksrqJJBBxtsQtw6R2xXWDhJ4QGRPG+Eu3wypQd92uUSb++JwcyF+7B1/pk2gDOO > jWbVjJLzgYsynegMGLYtAiWmOJKK/Ysz/t6UgrqQAtqh83ShqMFCT/dACKfjIAPR > JbZN+AsgIyxCx3jzjjebaHszcy4yBQi91CK8dq/Ok8TKuBs/0D4j+faadcg7QO4o > mtJePv+typLcyWFdE0jg2JxkWSVlVLcjsAWgtMnlTlWCvhaQSyXr9Qlwdp45LptE > MvcYg9xtzOM1bIp1jg2kqeBoK2V2tvjQTSxfsVG46wGnb/Ow1xB5606Zb1jcTQs= > =ryWD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
- [Acme] Current Charter language Ted Hardie
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Salz, Rich
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Martin Thomson
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Ted Hardie
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Richard Barnes
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language ⌘ Matt Miller
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language stephen.farrell
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Randy Bush
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Russ Housley
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Phillip Hallam-Baker