Re: [Acme] Current Charter language

stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Fri, 15 May 2015 19:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Acme] Current Charter language
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On Fri May 15 20:31:00 2015 GMT+0100, ⌘ Matt Miller wrote:
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> On 5/15/15 1:20 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:
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> > 
> > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Stephen Farrell 
> > <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 15/05/15 19:38, Ted Hardie wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Stephen Farrell 
> >> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 15/05/15 19:09, Salz, Rich wrote:
> >>>> Any other obvious edits needed?
> >>> 
> >>> LGTM
> >> 
> >> (no hats)
> >> 
> >> Me too. I like it and figure it's good enough.
> >> 
> >> The only thing I'd suggest maybe adding is the illustrative goal 
> >> that an "apt-get install apache" should be able to get the 
> >> required certificates for a web server automatically, if there is
> >> an acme server that is willing to automate that far. And that a
> >> subsequent "apt-get upgrade" on that box should ensure that the
> >> certificate stuff needed for that apache install gets renewed if
> >> necessary.
> >> 
> >> I can see that it might be tricky to phrase that in language that
> >> works in a charter though, but maybe someone's feeling nicely 
> >> creative.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ​ Well, at the moment we says this:
> >> 
> >> "All of the processing must be done in a manner that is
> >> compatible with common service deployment environments, such as
> >> hosting environments.​"
> >> 
> >> Perhaps we can add something just after like this:
> >> 
> >> "Simplicity in certificate installation and maintenance are key
> >> design goals.  Enabling this process to be incorporated into the
> >> standard installation and upgrades of web servers via a single
> >> command line invocation or flag would be especially desirable".
> >> 
> >> That's less catchy than "apt-get install acme-cert", but it may
> >> be more charter-y.
> >> 
> >> Is that worth doing?
> > I like it anyway. I'm fine if you'd prefer to go ahead without it
> > though,
> > 
> > 
> > I like the charter better without it, tbh.  I don't think there's
> > any ambiguity in what we're after in this dimension :)
> > 
> > 
> 
> I agree with Richard, FWIW.
> 
> And +1 on the rest of the existing charter.  SHIPIT.

Fair nuff I can live with(out) it
S

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> Matt Miller < mamille2@cisco.com >
> Cisco Systems, Inc.
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