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Re: [Add] draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection

Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 25 February 2020 21:26 UTC

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From: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 13:26:27 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Add] draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection
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I think section 4 (maybe) could have some discussion of per-app based
resolver selection.

Mobile operating systems can sometimes have more data about which apps are
making which queries than, say, general Unix-derived OSes.

Also, with DoH, this might be something that can be chosen/randomized by
the webpage itself (e.g. on a per-service-worker basis or something; /me
handwaves in W3C).

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:01 AM Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> Jari, Martin, and I put together
> draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection/?include_text=1> to
> start a discussion on whether DNS clients can improve their privacy through
> the use of a set of multiple recursive resolver services.  We think it
> might be in scope for ADD, since the charter says the group "will focus on
> discovery and selection of DNS resolvers" and this discusses the impact of
> selecting more than one.
>
> Do the chairs and the working group agree?  If so, can we ask for agenda
> time at IETF 107 to present?
>
> thanks,
>
> Ted
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