Re: [Add] draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 25 February 2020 21:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Add] draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection
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Hiya,

On 25/02/2020 21:05, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> I'd be interested in seeing a presentation on this. 

+1

> I don't really agree
> with much of the analysis but I believe the topic is relevant.

I suspect this is an area where some good new ideas may
be needed to make progress.

On the draft itself, the set of available recursives is
often not the same as the set of configured/potential
recursives, in my experience mainly because of IPv4/IPv6
and blocking of 853. e.g. when I'm on the TCD college
n/w (during office-ish hours:-) 853 is blocked and IPv6
only works on the wireless interface, etc. All of that
could skew the output of any selection algorithm with
relatively long cycle durations.

Cheers,
S.


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> -Ekr
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> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:01 AM Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Jari, Martin, and I put together
>> draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arkko-abcd-distributed-resolver-selection/?include_text=1> to
>> start a discussion on whether DNS clients can improve their privacy through
>> the use of a set of multiple recursive resolver services.  We think it
>> might be in scope for ADD, since the charter says the group "will focus on
>> discovery and selection of DNS resolvers" and this discusses the impact of
>> selecting more than one.
>>
>> Do the chairs and the working group agree?  If so, can we ask for agenda
>> time at IETF 107 to present?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Ted
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