Re: [admin-discuss] Consultation on IETF Administrative Strategic Plan 2023

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From: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>
To: Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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I think you don't even really know if the IESG cares. I mean for sure they do care about the IETF and its future, but I don't think the IESG as a unified view if that requires a strategic plan. In the IAB we didn't really discuss that at all.


On 17.11.23, 13:03, "Jay Daley" <exec-director@ietf.org <mailto:exec-director@ietf.org>> wrote:


> On 16 Nov 2023, at 23:57, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com <mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>> wrote:
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> 
> No, I don't think so. I don't think these should be part of the LLC's strategic plan at all, because they're not part of the LLC's strategy, but are rather responsive to other groups.
> 
> The LLC's overall strategy in many of these areas is "be available to support the IESG/IAB". So there may be a need to note it for resource planning, but it's not part of the LLC's independent strategy in that if the IESG stopped caring then the LLC would just stop providing resources for it.


If the IESG stopped caring then the IETF LLC strategy would change to reflect that.


Absent any other document to refer to, removing these would significantly reduce transparency into the activities of the IETF LLC and so, while I will note this in my summary for the board, I will not be recommending any change.


Jay




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