Re: [Anima] "virtual out-of-band" ... or some minor non-ACP-number comments on Action: draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-25.txt

[William Atwood <[e-mail]>]

Is "overlay" the right word?

I agree that it is physically in-band, and virtually out-of-band.  Isn't
that the definition of "overlay"?

  Bill

On 2020-06-28 11:02 p.m., Michael Richardson wrote:
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> On 2020-06-23 10:31 p.m., [e-mail] wrote:
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-25
> 
> 
> yes, I read the diffs :-)
> 
> -   This document describes a modular design for a self-forming, self-
> -   managing and self-protecting ACP, which is a virtual in-band network
> -   designed to be as independent as possible of configuration,
> 
> +   This document describes a modular design for a self-forming, self-
> +   managing and self-protecting ACP, which is a virtual out-of-band
> +   network designed to be as independent as possible of configuration,
> 
> This change from being a virtual in-band network to a virtual
> out-of-band network must have been in response to some comments... It
> seems a big change in some ways.  I guess it makes this text consistent
> with the abstract which has said virtual out-of-band for awhile now.
> 
> But, I do have to wonder if we are creating confusion by claiming that
> this is an out-of-band mechanism, even though it's really an in-band
> mechanism.  It's just virtually-out.
> 
> I actually do want to start a bike-shed issue here?
> Are we describing ourself wrong?  Maybe there is some portmanteau that
> would be more accurate?  I think that the above sentence is essentially
> the elevator pitch for all of ANIMA.
> 
> 
> There is also a bunch of other text that has been added to the
> Introduction, which I think confuses more than it enlightens.
> Or at least needs a better copy-edit.
> 
> A number of other new sections (9.4..) need a copy-edit to fix some
> missing words.  I will try to help Toerless with that via github.
> 
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