Re: [Anima] Ted Lemon's Block on charter-ietf-anima-00-15: (with BLOCK)

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 30 October 2014 02:01 UTC

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:01:05 +1300
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Subject: Re: [Anima] Ted Lemon's Block on charter-ietf-anima-00-15: (with BLOCK)
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On 30/10/2014 14:46, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 9:33 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> Additionally, management and optimisation of operational device
>> configurations is
>> expensive, tedious, and prone to human error.
>> ...
>> This WG is intended to mitigate this duplication of similar mechanisms
>> and heavy
>> dependency on human actions, in particular by facilitating secure
>> closed-loop
>> interaction directly between network elements to satisfy management intent.
>> This motivates the introduction of a control paradigm where network
>> processes,
>> driven by objectives (or intent), coordinate their local decisions,
>> autonomically translate them into local actions, and adapt them
>> automatically
>> according to various sources of information including external
>> information and
>> protocol information bases.
>> ...
>>
>> Speaks to the nature of managed, deliberately designed and laid out but
>> automatically triggered set of autonomic actions.
> 
> OK, that helps.   I didn't really get that from the text, though.   How about:
> 
>  This WG will develop a system of autonomic functions that carry
>  out the intentions of the network operator without the need for detailed
>  low-level management of individual devices.   This will be done by providing
>  a secure closed-loop interaction mechanism whereby network elements
>  cooperate directly to satisfy management intent.
> 
>  The working group will develop a control paradigm where network
>  processes coordinate their decisions and automatically translate
>  them into local actions, based on various sources of information
>  including operator-supplied configuration information and protocol
>  information bases.

Works for me
> 
> But what are protocol information bases?   do you mean MIBs and YANG schemas?

I suppose, but probably these are really part of "operator-supplied configuration
information" anyway.

   Brian