Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 23 July 2014 19:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint
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Note:  the very first time I came to the IETF in person was to argue
against Nathaniel Borenstein's KidCode
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-borenstein-kidcode/.   The scars I
got from the politics, backstabbing, and insanity that lead through that
discussion to the IETF VAC effort (voluntary access control, see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-talk/msg01707.html) and on to the
spin up of p3p (http://www.w3.org/P3P/) still throb on cold nights.

There is not even a single bit of good to be done here.  The amount of
misapprehension and mischief available is simply too high.  Forget it and
walk away.

I oppose adoption of this draft.

With all respect to those not quite so scarred,

Ted


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint
>
> Colleagues,
>
> This note begins a Call For Adoption for the above document to be adopted
> as an APPSAWG working group item.  The Call ends on August 8, 2014.
>
> Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document as-is
> is ready for publication.  It is merely acceptance of the document as a
> starting point for what will be some later final product of APPSAWG.  The
> working group is free to make changes to the document according to the
> normal consensus process.
>
> There was some favorable discussion toward adoption of this document at
> IETF 90 in Toronto.  We will factor this into the decision at the close of
> this Call.
>
> Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition,
> preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item of
> APPSAWG (as opposed to some other venue).  Feel free to include discussion
> of constraints that the WG should consider with respect to its mini-charter.
>
> -MSK, APPSAWG co-chair
>
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