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Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 23 July 2014 20:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint
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Ted,


On 7/23/14, 3:49 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> Note:  the very first time I came to the IETF in person was to argue
> against Nathaniel Borenstein's KidCode
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-borenstein-kidcode/.   The
> scars I got from the politics, backstabbing, and insanity that lead
> through that discussion to the IETF VAC effort (voluntary access
> control, see: 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-talk/msg01707.html) and on to
> the spin up of p3p (http://www.w3.org/P3P/) still throb on cold nights. 
>
> There is not even a single bit of good to be done here.  The amount of
> misapprehension and mischief available is simply too high.  Forget it
> and walk away.
>
> I oppose adoption of this draft.

Being sensitive to the abuse of abuse, and mindful that I don't wish you
to relive a miserable experience, that was 1995 and I can't actually
tell from the above text what issues were in play at the time, and
whether those are still applicable.  Some of the archives are lost.  Can
you summarize so we can understand what we're in for?

Eliot

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