Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint
James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> Mon, 21 July 2014 19:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingham-safe-hint
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At the very least, there needs to be a mechanism for explicitly requesting that safe browsing mode be turned off (e.g. Prefer: safe=off). Beyond that, as I said, I won't be implementing this myself, so if potential implementers are providing feedback that a simple boolean flag is good enough, then I certainly do not object. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote: > The overwhelming feedback I’ve had is that making this anything other than a binary flag is a non-starter — both because we’d have to define a universal taxonomy, and because we’d be exposing more than one bit of information for fingerprinting. > > Note that the draft currently allows sites to have finer gradations of preferences overlaid via their own mechanisms (e.g., cookies) if need be. > > Cheers, > > > On 21 Jul 2014, at 12:45 pm, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm generally +1 on the draft but do not currently have any specific >> implementation plan (I just don't need it for my stuff). I will note, >> however, that this draft makes the assumption that "safe mode" is a >> binary on-off preference; however, both Google and Bing (as examples) >> offer three choices: Off, Moderate and Strict. The Prefer header >> allows for optional parameters and I think it would be worthwhile to >> leverage that capability here. >> >> Prefer: safe=moderate >> Prefer: safe=strict >> Prefer: safe=off >> >> Note, also, that additional parameters may be applied if additional >> granularity is required. For instance: >> >> Prefer: safe=strict; max=Y7 (prefer strict safe mode with a max >> rating of Y7) >> >> - James >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy >> <superuser@gmail.com> wrote: >>> draft-nottingham-safe-hint >> >> _______________________________________________ >> apps-discuss mailing list >> apps-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > >
- [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-nottingha… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John R Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eric Burger
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Cridland
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Martin Thomson
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John R Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Douglas Otis
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Karl Dubost
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Martin Thomson
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Hector Santos
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Martin Thomson
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Hector Santos
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Rob Trace
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Hector Santos
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eric Burger
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Hector Santos
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Hector Santos
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Hector Santos
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John R Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… Eric Burger
- Re: [apps-discuss] Call For Adoption: draft-notti… John Levine