Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri-scheme-03.txt
Mykyta Yevstifeyev <evnikita2@gmail.com> Wed, 21 March 2012 13:26 UTC
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:26:17 +0200
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From: Mykyta Yevstifeyev <evnikita2@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri-scheme-03.txt
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21 марта 2012 г. 9:45 пользователь Murray S. Kucherawy <msk@cloudmark.com>написал: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com [mailto: > barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba > > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:35 PM > > To: Murray S. Kucherawy > > Cc: apps-discuss@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: > draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri-scheme-03.txt > > > > > [Relatively] Minor Issues: > > > I'm not so sure about use of RFC2119 language in the IANA > > > Considerations section. You're not really describing > > > interoperability requirements with IANA. > > > > I'm sure. And it's my text -- this is one that Mykyta doesn't like. > > The three MUSTs in there are not directed at IANA, but at people > > writing new registrations. They tell those people what their > > registrations have to look like, and I wanted to use MUST to stress > > that even though this is an FCFS policy, there are requirements > > nonetheless. > > I think my point is that the IANA Considerations section spells out the > rules for a new registry when the registry is created, especially when > conformant with RFC5226. Everything in such a section is essentially a > MUST, because you're either filling out or defining a template and the > registry's initial entries. I can't imagine a "This field SHOULD/MAY > contain..." anywhere in an IANA Considerations section, except maybe > optional fields, but they're typically labeled as such in the first place. > > In the case of this draft, the second MUST in particular seems > unnecessary. If the first one were changed to "has to" or similar, I have > some doubts that IANA would start slipping in invalid tokens. And for the > third one, they're already pretty good at preferring (or even requiring?) > permanent document links without this document having to say so. > > I don't feel particularly strongly about this. It just seems unnecessary. > I see we've agreed on dropping 2119 language here. I'll change this to non-normaitve equivalents. > > > > [Absolutely] Nits: > > > All of these are either reductions of overly-wordy text or fixes to > > minor grammar nits, or both. > > ... > > > OLD > > > The concept of "about" URIs has been formed at the > > > times when the > > > applications did not have the "friendly" user > > > interface, in order to > > > provide an access to the aforementioned resources via > > > typing the URIs > > ... > > > NEW > > > The concept of "about" URIs formed when applications > > > did not have a > > > "friendly" user interface, to enable access to the > > > aforementioned > > > resources by typing URIs into an address bar or > > similar feature. > > ... > > > > Yeah, good luck with that. I tried to convince Mykyta to tone the > > rhetoric down in there, and he declined... and I didn't see it as > > important enough to fight about. > > Well, parts of it are grammatically incorrect and the RFC Editor will have > to fix them anyway, but a lot of my nits attempted to simplify needlessly > wordy or overly formal paragraphs. I hope the authors will give them a > second look. > Again thanks to Murray for these nits. Mykyta Yevstifeyev > > -MSK > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss >
- [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri… Jiankang YAO
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… Barry Leiba
- [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: draft-i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… Mykyta Yevstifeyev
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… Mykyta Yevstifeyev
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Mykyta Yevstifeyev
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-ietf-appsawg-about… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Larry Masinter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Use of RFC 2119, Re: WGLC: dra… Ned Freed