Re: [apps-discuss] Mail client configuration via WebFinger

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Mon, 08 February 2016 19:49 UTC

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--On Monday, February 08, 2016 10:43 -0500 Eric Burger
<eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote:

> Perhaps an application-layer DHCP?

Obvious, but another example of why I think we need to look back
and do some examination.  Something built on a DHCP-like model
(or, I suspect, on the sort of device identification model
Claudio mentioned) probably means exposing the device and/or its
location in all sorts of ways.  That is precisely what assorted
privacy efforts are trying to avoid.  But Dave suggests (I think
probably correctly) that one of the fatal flaws with ACAP is
that it requires a username and hostname.  That has other
problems, but can also lead to a different set of privacy issues
(including the potential for linking various credentials and
device information).  One can work around those issues using
HTTPS with verifiable client certs, but that just changes the
problem in other ways.  Or one can move to a layered solution,
hoping that opportunistic encryption based on traditionally
largely-unverified server credentials will adequately hide the
private stuff.

Better be sure we know what problem we are trying to solve.

    john