Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking SMTP hard errors "improves" C/R utility?)
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On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:05:04PM -1000, Peter Kay wrote > However, that being said, go ahead and try to send email using > well-engineered mass emailing software and you will see that it does, > in fact, remove your email address from the database. > > Can we say with absolute certainty that all spammers remove all bad > emails? Of course not. But look at the feature set of most all > mass-email software and you will see features to auto-delist email > addresses with "hard bounces". A well-managed mailing list, using "well-engineered mass emailing software" will do proper confirmed opt-in, so you won't need to challenge it. If all mass mailings were done that way, there wouldn't any spam in the first place. It's the spammers (whether they be chickenboners or spammers-in-pinstripe-suits such as Topica, Shagmail, Experian, Harris, etc) who don't play nice. > What we really need is to talk to some first class spammers. And they'll tell you that filtering and blocking their "important information" and "exciting offers" makes you an anti-commerce net-nazi. -- Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> Email users are divided into two classes; 1) Those who have effective spam-blocking 2) Those who wish they did _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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- Re: [Asrg] RE: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Richard Rognlie
- RE: [Asrg] RE: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Bob Wyman
- RE: [Asrg] RE: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] RE: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Bob Wyman
- RE: [Asrg] RE: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Peter Kay
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Barry Shein
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Peter Kay
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Bob Wyman
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric Dean
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Scott Nelson
- [Asrg] The level of discourse has degenerated... … Bob Wyman
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Barry Shein
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Barry Shein
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Barry Shein
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Barry Shein
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Peter Kay
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Barry Shein
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric Dean
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric D. Williams
- Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… kent
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… waltdnes
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Bob Wyman
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Yakov Shafranovich
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Eric Dean
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Scott Nelson
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… mathew
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- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Scott Nelson
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Eric D. Williams
- RE: [Asrg] TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faking S… Peter Kay
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Scott Nelson
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Eric D. Williams
- Re: [Asrg] Re: TitanKey and "white lies"... (Faki… Scott Nelson