Re: [Asrg] Statistical Analysis shows SPF should work Pretty Well

Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> Fri, 13 June 2003 15:39 UTC

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From: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:14:30 -0600

> From: Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com>

> ...
> By contrast Yahoo is employing a Turing test process to test sign ups. I 
> wonder if Hotmail would use such process, would that reduce the problem? 
> ...

Obviously not.

Computers will not be able to administer anything that might reasonably
be called a Turing test until they can pass one.  For the immediately
foreseeable future, any text based test administered by computers will
be as vulnerable to "scripting" as one based on pictures.


Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com
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