Re: [Asrg] SPF: Objection: spammers will use <>
Markus Stumpf <maex-lists-spam-ietf-asrg@space.net> Tue, 17 June 2003 18:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] SPF: Objection: spammers will use <>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:22:33 +0200
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:28:25PM -0400, Meng Weng Wong wrote: > The original DMP I-D says, in the case of a blank envelope sender, > test using the HELO domain instead of the envelope sender domain. Wow ... how's the weather on your planet? Out of 7394 connections on one of our mailservers that is closed to customer access 6789 had non matching (the hostname) HELO arguments. Most HELO arguments are pc01 and the like. On our MX mailservers the ration is similar, but of course the are a lot of spammers that fake them, but I intentionally made the test on a non MX mailserver. So you want to force about 90% of all mailserver administrators (most of the clueless) to change the configuration of their mailserver? Have fun. \Maex -- SpaceNet AG | Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Fon: +49 (89) 32356-0 Research & Development | D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 "The security, stability and reliability of a computer system is reciprocally proportional to the amount of vacuity between the ears of the admin" _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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- Re: [Asrg] Statistical Analysis shows SPF should … Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] Statistical Analysis shows SPF should … Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] Statistical Analysis shows SPF should … Barry Shein
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- [Asrg] SPF: Objection: spammers will use <> Meng Weng Wong
- Re: [Asrg] Spammer responses to SPF Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] SPF: Objection: spammers will use <> Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] SPF: Objection: spammers will use <> Yakov Shafranovich