Re: [Asrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl-08.txt (fwd)

"Chris Lewis" <clewis@nortel.com> Wed, 19 November 2008 13:12 UTC

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Matthias Leisi wrote:
> Chris Lewis schrieb:
> 
>> There's also a consideration of scaling.  Having a few dozen
>> organizations continually rescanning their, say, /16s could get rather
>> old quick.
> 
> An old wish: Have some protocol to enable queries like "return all
> listings for IP addresses in a.b.c.d/N" (for some reasonably max value
> of N, possibly 24?).

We'd only have to issue more than 65536 of those to check our space ;-)

Yes, something like that would be nice and I don't think too many DNSBL
operators would object (at least in theory).  Some DNSBLs offer by-email
notification.  Others might want to, but don't for whatever reason.

However:

1) The BCP is a wrong place to describe a protocol for that.
2) Most DNSBL operators would probably prefer that there was some sort
of authorization layered on top.

For reasons of scaling and overhead, I think it'd probably be better
that these are third party offerings.

There have been efforts to implement third party services to do that.
Habeus had/has(?) one.  I believe Karmasphere can do it.

Most of these services only query small numbers of IPs, and the costs
would be prohibitive if you had a largish range.  But with the
appropriate arrangements, it should be possible to do much better.

> Yes, that's easily done if you have a local copy of the data, but that
> is not always feasible (or has considerable cost).
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