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Re: [atoca] The future of atoca

"'Mark Wood'" <mark.wood@drcf.net> Sat, 21 July 2012 13:11 UTC

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I Repeat;

The matter of using public networks for authority to citizen communication
is only just now becoming a mainstream topic. We just did not have a model
for such before the deployment of ETWS in Japan and now CMAS in the USA in
2012.

Now that we do have such systems is the time to address the matter.

I deduce that anyone wanting to obtain a licence for a public mobile network
will have to have some sort of method of realising the same burdens that are
now placed on the cellular network providers. The wording of the
requirements will probably be non technology dependent, so the same burdens
will be a requirement for all system technologies. 

We have not had this conversation yet, and we need to have it now that
CMAS/ETSI has finally just arrived (after a long gestation period).

It will probably take at least another year to understand what the issues
are before we can make any submissions to the IETF.

Mark wood DRCF.

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