Re: [atoca] The future of atoca

Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski@netmagic.com> Sat, 21 July 2012 20:29 UTC

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Hi Art,

Good admonitions.

As someone who participates significantly in the
MILE group (ironically dealing with incidents),
I'm curious if anyone has contemplated treating
an emergency warning message as simply a
specialized instance of incident messages,
and potentially using IODEF SCI to move
CAP messages under that aegis?

There is a certain irony in Q4/17 (from which
I'm about to depart), that they are both within
that same group.

best,
tony


On 7/21/2012 1:41 PM, Art Botterell wrote:
> Mark makes the essential point, IMHO.  This working group may simply have been ahead of its time.  So if the WG format isn't appropriate... I don't really have an opinion on that... I hope we can find some way to keep a less formal conversation going among folks who are interested, in anticipation that relevant issues may come clear over the next few years.
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