Re: [atoca] The future of atoca

Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> Mon, 30 July 2012 21:43 UTC

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I don't agree.  I think a lot of what Richard has proposed works.  I think some things could be improved (a draft I will write).  

Brian

On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

> The problem I see is that we actually don't have a proposal that actually works.
> Abstract discussions about potential solutions don't help to make progress. 
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