Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms-15> for your review

Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com> Tue, 19 September 2023 13:09 UTC

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Hi Hendrik,

Looks like we still have some editorial work to do here.

If my understanding of AUTH48 is correct, then we only have 48 hours to make these changes? This is a particularly bad week for me as I’m travelling for the ICMC FIPS conference.

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Mike Ounsworth

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms-15> for your review

Authors, While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. 1) <!-- [rfced] The algorithms must be supported to conform with what? Please clarify. Original: 


Authors,



While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary)

the following questions, which are also in the XML file.



1) <!-- [rfced] The algorithms must be supported to conform with what?

Please clarify.



Original:

   RFC 4210 Appendix D.2 [RFC4210] contains a set of algorithms,

   mandatory to be supported by conforming implementations.



Perhaps:

   It is mandatory for implementations conformant with CMP to support the

   set of algorithms defined in Appendix D.2 of [RFC4210].

-->





2) <!--[rfced] Should "cryptoanalysis" be updated to be "cryptanalysis"?



Original:

  In general, new attacks are emerging due to research

  cryptoanalysis or increase in computing power.



Perhaps:

  In general, new attacks are emerging due to research

  cryptanalysis or increase in computing power.

-->





3) <!-- [rfced] Should "(SHAKEs)" be "(XOF)"?  Or is "SHAKEs" an example of an XOF?



Original:

   The SHA-3 family of hash functions is defined in FIPS Pub 202

   [NIST.FIPS.202] and includes fixed output length variants SHA3-224,

   SHA3-256, SHA3-384, and SHA3-512, as well as extendable-output

   functions (SHAKEs) SHAKE128 and SHAKE256.



Perhaps:

   The SHA-3 family of hash functions is defined in FIPS Pub 202

   [NIST_FIPS_202] and includes fixed output length variants SHA3-224,

   SHA3-256, SHA3-384, and SHA3-512, as well as extendable-output

   functions (XOFs) such as SHAKE128 and SHAKE256.

-->





4) <!--[rfced] Should instances of "ECDSA signature algorithm" and "EdDSA

signature algorithm" be updated to read simply "ECDSA" and "EdDSA" to avoid

redundancy? If expanded, "ECDSA signature algorithm" would read "Elliptic

Curve Digital Signature Algorithm signature algorithm" and "EdDSA signature

algorithm" would read "Edwards-curve Digital Signature Algorithm signature

algorithm". Please review and let us know if any updates are needed.

-->





5) <!--[rfced] May we expand "SECP" as "Standard for Efficient Cryptography"?



Original:

   As specified in RFC 5480 [RFC5480] the NIST-recommended SECP curves

   are identified by the following OIDs:

-->





6) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document

should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container for

content that is semantically less important or tangential to the

content that surrounds it" (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary*aside__;Iw!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!ZhSv8tcSblpo6M2EqIK6gbXe2su73bypLc5SDx4gLBiKNLtlf5TuXn1nKlfqOjBydRJFeBLkuiqCoYsMmDMdosEmHCWn$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary*aside__;Iw!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!ZhSv8tcSblpo6M2EqIK6gbXe2su73bypLc5SDx4gLBiKNLtlf5TuXn1nKlfqOjBydRJFeBLkuiqCoYsMmDMdosEmHCWn$>).

-->





7) <!--[rfced] We note that "KM_KL_ALG" is not is not present in the

Lightweight CMP Profile or Section 7. Please review and let us know if/how

this this citation should be updated.



Original:

   The key transport algorithm is also referred to as PROT_ENC_ALG in

   RFC 4210 Appendix D and E [RFC4210] and as KM_KL_ALG in the

   Lightweight CMP Profile [I-D.ietf-lamps-lightweight-cmp-profile], as

   well as in Section 7.

-->





8) <!--[rfced] We note that "PROT_ENC_ALG" is defined in Section 7.1, not

Section 7.2. "KM_KA_ALG", "KM_KT_ALG", and "KM_KD_ALG" are defined in

Section 7.2, not Section 7.1. "SYM_PENC_ALG" is defined in Section 7.1, not

Section 7.2. "KM_KW_ALG" and "PROT_SYM_ALG" are defined in Section 7.2, not

Section 7.2. May we update these citations accordingly?



Original:

      -  Protection of centrally generated keys: The strength of the

         algorithms used for the key management technique (Section 7.2:

         PROT_ENC_ALG or Section 7.1: KM_KA_ALG, KM_KT_ALG, KM_KD_ALG)

         and the encryption of the content-encryption key and private

         key (Section 7.2: SYM_PENC_ALG, PROT_SYM_ALG or Section 7.1:

         KM_KW_ALG, PROT_SYM_ALG).

-->





9) <!-- [rfced] It appears as though you tried to avoid citation tags being

read as part of the text.  This has been altered in some places to include

links and avoid too much redundancy.  Please review and let us know if you

have any objections.



For example:



Original:

   Specific conventions to be considered are specified in RFC 5754

   Section 2 [RFC5754].



Current:

   Specific conventions to be considered are specified in Section 2 of

   [RFC5754].

-->





10) <!-- [rfced] "With submitting" is unclear here.  Perhaps "for authoring" or "for editing" is meant?



Original:

   Thanks to Russ Housley for supporting this draft with submitting

   [RFC9044] and [RFC9045].

-->





11) <!--[rfced] The hyphenation of SHA is inconsistent in this document.

Please review and let us know if/how these instances may be made

consistent.



SHA-224 vs. SHA224

SHA-256 vs. SHA256

SHA-384 vs. SHA384

SHA-512 vs. SHA512

-->





12) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon

first use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review

each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.

-->





13) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the

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RFC9481 (draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms-15)



Title            : Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Algorithms

Author(s)        : H. Brockhaus, H. Aschauer, M. Ounsworth, J. Gray

WG Chair(s)      : Russ Housley, Tim Hollebeek

Area Director(s) : Roman Danyliw, Paul Wouters





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