Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms-15> for your review
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms-15> for your review
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Dear Alanna Thank you for this reminder. Mike, John, Hans, and I are working on our response. As I am on vacation next week, it will take until the week after to respond in detail. Best regards, Hendrik > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. September 2023 18:37 > An: Brockhaus, Hendrik (T CST SEA-DE) <hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com>; > Aschauer, Hans (T CST SES-DE) <hans.aschauer@siemens.com>; Mike > Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; John Gray > <John.Gray@entrust.com> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; lamps-ads@ietf.org; lamps-chairs@ietf.org; > housley@vigilsec.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > Betreff: Re: [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-lamps-cmp- > algorithms-15> for your review > > Hi Hendrik, Hans, Mike, and John, > > This is a friendly reminder that we await your responses to the questions that > we previously sent. We will wait for these to be addressed before continuing > with the publication process. > > The AUTH48 status page for this document is located here: > https://www.rf/ > c- > editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9481&data=05%7C01%7Chendrik.brockhaus%40si > emens.com%7C5cdd08f64c614039c01008dbc041248b%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4 > addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C638315158766830546%7CUnknown%7CT > WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJ > XVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CQtN98nGOfC1vegSKDTZTw4Ac > 9%2Fc7FL%2Fly5Y54PGTok%3D&reserved=0 > > Thank you, > RFC Editor/ap > > > On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:02 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > We will await for the queries to be addressed as well as reviews and > approvals from each author prior to publishing this document. There is no > requirement that reviews and approvals be complete within 48 hours. While > we encourage timely review, our goal is for the document to be as correct as > possible upon publication. > > > > Thank you, > > RFC Editor/ap > > > >> On Sep 19, 2023, at 6:08 AM, Mike Ounsworth > <Mike.Ounsworth=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Hendrik, > >> > >> Looks like we still have some editorial work to do here. > >> > >> If my understanding of AUTH48 is correct, then we only have 48 hours to > make these changes? This is a particularly bad week for me as I’m travelling > for the ICMC FIPS conference. > >> > >> --- > >> Mike Ounsworth > >> > >> From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:18 AM > >> To: hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com; hans.aschauer@siemens.com; > Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com>; John Gray > <John.Gray@entrust.com> > >> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; lamps-ads@ietf.org; lamps-chairs@ietf.org; > housley@vigilsec.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-lamps-cmp- > algorithms-15> for your review > >> > >> Authors, While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. 1) <!-- > [rfced] The algorithms must be supported to conform with what? Please > clarify. Original: > >> Authors, > >> > >> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > necessary) > >> the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > >> > >> 1) <!-- [rfced] The algorithms must be supported to conform with what? > >> Please clarify. > >> > >> Original: > >> RFC 4210 Appendix D.2 [RFC4210] contains a set of algorithms, > >> mandatory to be supported by conforming implementations. > >> > >> Perhaps: > >> It is mandatory for implementations conformant with CMP to support the > >> set of algorithms defined in Appendix D.2 of [RFC4210]. > >> --> > >> > >> > >> 2) <!--[rfced] Should "cryptoanalysis" be updated to be "cryptanalysis"? > >> > >> Original: > >> In general, new attacks are emerging due to research > >> cryptoanalysis or increase in computing power. > >> > >> Perhaps: > >> In general, new attacks are emerging due to research > >> cryptanalysis or increase in computing power. > >> --> > >> > >> > >> 3) <!-- [rfced] Should "(SHAKEs)" be "(XOF)"? Or is "SHAKEs" an example > of an XOF? > >> > >> Original: > >> The SHA-3 family of hash functions is defined in FIPS Pub 202 > >> [NIST.FIPS.202] and includes fixed output length variants SHA3-224, > >> SHA3-256, SHA3-384, and SHA3-512, as well as extendable-output > >> functions (SHAKEs) SHAKE128 and SHAKE256. > >> > >> Perhaps: > >> The SHA-3 family of hash functions is defined in FIPS Pub 202 > >> [NIST_FIPS_202] and includes fixed output length variants SHA3-224, > >> SHA3-256, SHA3-384, and SHA3-512, as well as extendable-output > >> functions (XOFs) such as SHAKE128 and SHAKE256. > >> --> > >> > >> > >> 4) <!--[rfced] Should instances of "ECDSA signature algorithm" and "EdDSA > >> signature algorithm" be updated to read simply "ECDSA" and "EdDSA" to > avoid > >> redundancy? If expanded, "ECDSA signature algorithm" would read > "Elliptic > >> Curve Digital Signature Algorithm signature algorithm" and "EdDSA > signature > >> algorithm" would read "Edwards-curve Digital Signature Algorithm > signature > >> algorithm". Please review and let us know if any updates are needed. > >> --> > >> > >> > >> 5) <!--[rfced] May we expand "SECP" as "Standard for Efficient > Cryptography"? > >> > >> Original: > >> As specified in RFC 5480 [RFC5480] the NIST-recommended SECP curves > >> are identified by the following OIDs: > >> --> > >> > >> > >> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document > >> should be in the <aside> element. 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Please review and let us know if/how > >> this this citation should be updated. > >> > >> Original: > >> The key transport algorithm is also referred to as PROT_ENC_ALG in > >> RFC 4210 Appendix D and E [RFC4210] and as KM_KL_ALG in the > >> Lightweight CMP Profile [I-D.ietf-lamps-lightweight-cmp-profile], as > >> well as in Section 7. > >> --> > >> > >> > >> 8) <!--[rfced] We note that "PROT_ENC_ALG" is defined in Section 7.1, not > >> Section 7.2. "KM_KA_ALG", "KM_KT_ALG", and "KM_KD_ALG" are defined > in > >> Section 7.2, not Section 7.1. "SYM_PENC_ALG" is defined in Section 7.1, > not > >> Section 7.2. "KM_KW_ALG" and "PROT_SYM_ALG" are defined in Section > 7.2, not > >> Section 7.2. 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- Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 948… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <d… Alanna Paloma
- Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <d… Alanna Paloma
- Re: [auth48] [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <d… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-l… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-l… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-l… John Gray
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-i… Alanna Paloma
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-i… Aschauer, Hans
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-i… Alanna Paloma
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-i… Alanna Paloma
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-i… Roman Danyliw
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9481 <draft-ietf-l… Alanna Paloma