Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9390 <draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14> for your review

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Thread-Topic: [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9390 <draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14> for your review
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9390 <draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14> for your review
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Hi,

I approve the publication of the latest version of the draft as RFC.

Regards,

Lionel


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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> Envoyé : jeudi 20 avril 2023 02:29
> À : MORAND Lionel INNOV/NET <lionel.morand@orange.com>; mark@azu.ca;
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> Objet : Re: [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9390 <draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14> for
> your review
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> Authors and *Robert,
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> This is a friendly reminder that we await your approvals prior to moving this
> document forward in the publication process.
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> *Robert (AD) - Please review and approve of the updated text in Section 4.1.1 in
> the diff file below:
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> >
> >> On Apr 12, 2023, at 4:59 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Alana,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your quick feedback.
> >> Please find our response below.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Lionel
> >>
> >>
> >> Orange Restricted
> >>
> >>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>> De : Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> Envoyé : mardi 11 avril 2023
> >>> 22:40 À : MORAND Lionel INNOV/NET <lionel.morand@orange.com>;
> >>> rwilton@cisco.com Cc : rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; mark@azu.ca;
> >>> marco.liebsch@neclab.eu; dime- ads@ietf.org; dime-chairs@ietf.org;
> >>> jounikor@gmail.com; auth48archive@rfc- editor.org Objet : Re: [AD]
> >>> AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9390 <draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14> for your
> >>> review
> >>>
> >>> Hi Lionel and AD*,
> >>>
> >>> *Robert - As the AD, please review and approve of the updated text
> >>> in Section
> >>> 4.1.1 in the diff file below:
> >>> https://ww/
> >>> w.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9390-auth48diff.html&data=05%7C01%7C
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> Lionel - Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files
> >>> accordingly. Please note that we have some additional queries:
> >>>
> >>> 1) You provided the following expansions for the listed acronyms:
> >>>
> >>>> GASR: Group-Abort-Session-Request
> >>>> GASA: Group-Abort-Session-Answer
> >>>> GSTA: Group-Session-Termination-Answer
> >>>> GSTR: Group-Session-Termination-Request
> >>>
> >>> We have added preceding text to introduce the acronyms. Please
> >>> review and let us know of any concerns.
> >>>
> >>> Current:
> >>>  Additionally, the following acronyms are used in the tables below.
> >>>
> >>>     GASR:  Group-Abort-Session-Request
> >>>
> >>>     GASA:  Group-Abort-Session-Answer
> >>>
> >>>     GSTA:  Group-Session-Termination-Answer
> >>>
> >>>     GSTR:  Group-Session-Termination-Request
> >>
> >> [[LM]] Thank you!
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 2) Please clarify if “re-authorization request” or “Re-Authorization Request
> (RAR)”
> >>> should be made consistent. If so, which form should be used
> >>> throughout the document?
> >>>
> >>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology
> >>>>> appears to be used inconsistently.  Please review these
> >>>>> occurrences and let us now if/how they may be made consistent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> re-authorization request vs. Re-Authorization Request (RAR)
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] OK!
> >>
> >> [[LM]] Sorry 😊 The point is that there is no inconsistency issue. One is
> "service-specific re-authorization request" whereas RAR is a one these re-
> authorization command defined in RFC6733. But I realized that we have missed
> something: RAR should be "Re-Auth-Request" and RAA should "Re-Auth-Answer"
> in some places.
> >> Moreover the coma (,) should be removed in "service-specific, server-initiated
> request". Both changes are addressed below.
> >>
> >> 4.2.2. Removing a Session from a Session Group
> >>
> >> OLD:
> >>
> >> When the Diameter server decides to remove a session from one or multiple
> particular session groups or from all session groups to which the session has
> been assigned beforehand, the server sends a Re-Authorization Request (RAR) or
> a service-specific, server-initiated request to the client, indicating the session in the
> Session-Id AVP of the request. The client sends a Re-Authorization Answer (RAA)
> or a service-specific answer to respond to the server's request.
> >>
> >> NEW:
> >>
> >> When the Diameter server decides to remove a session from one or multiple
> particular session groups or from all session groups to which the session has
> been assigned beforehand, the server sends a Re-Auth-Request (RAR) or a
> service-specific server-initiated request to the client, indicating the session in the
> Session-Id AVP of the request. The client sends a Re-Auth-Answer (RAA) or a
> service-specific answer to respond to the server's request.
> >>
> >> 4.2.3. Mid-session Group Assignment Modifications
> >>
> >> OLD:
> >>
> >> When a Diameter server decides to update assigned groups mid-session, it
> sends a Re-Authorization Request (RAR) message or a service-specific request to
> the client identifying the session for which the session group lists are to be
> updated. The client responds with a Re-Authorization Answer (RAA) message or a
> service-specific answer.
> >>
> >> NEW:
> >>
> >> When a Diameter server decides to update assigned groups mid-session, it
> sends a Re-Auth-Request (RAR) message or a service-specific request to the client
> identifying the session for which the session group lists are to be updated. The
> client responds with a Re-Auth-Answer (RAA) message or a service-specific
> answer.
> >>
> >>
> >> 4.4.1. Sending Group Commands
> >>
> >> OLD:
> >>
> >> For example, when a server sends a Re-Authorization Request (RAR) or a
> service-specific, server-initiated request to the client, it indicates to the client to
> follow the request according to one of three possible procedures.
> >>
> >> NEW:
> >>
> >> For example, when a server sends a Re-Auth-Request (RAR) or a service-
> specific server-initiated request to the client, it indicates to the client to follow the
> request according to one of three possible procedures.
> >>
> >>>
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> >>> Thank you,
> >>> RFC Editor/ap
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 11, 2023, at 2:19 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your patience.
> >>>> Please find below our feedback.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Lionel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Orange Restricted
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>>> De : rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> Envoyé :
> >>>>> vendredi 24 mars 2023 18:08 À : mark@azu.ca;
> >>>>> marco.liebsch@neclab.eu; MORAND Lionel INNOV/NET
> <lionel.morand@orange.com> Cc :
> >>>>> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; dime-ads@ietf.org;
> >>>>> dime-chairs@ietf.org; jounikor@gmail.com; rwilton@cisco.com;
> >>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org Objet : Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9390
> >>>>> <draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14> for your review
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Authors,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> >>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that
> >>>>> appear in the title) for use on
> >>>>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
> >>>>> http://www.rfc-/
> editor.org%2Fsearch&data=05%7C01%7Clionel.morand%40orange.
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> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] Nothing to add.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we update this sentence below?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>> If the Diameter server accepts the client's request for a group
> >>>>> assignment, the server MUST assign the new session to each of the
> >>>>> one or multiple identified session groups when present in the
> >>>>> Session- Group-Info AVP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>> If the Diameter server accepts the client's request for a group
> >>>>> assignment, the server MUST assign the new session to each (one or
> >>>>> more) of the identified session groups when present in the
> >>>>> Session- Group-Info AVP.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] We agree!
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] May we update instances of "service-specific auth"
> >>>>> to be "service-specific authorization"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>> When sending the response to the client, e.g., a service-specific
> >>>>> auth response as per NASREQ AA-Answer [RFC7155], the server MUST
> >>>>> include all Session-Group-Info AVPs as received in the client's request.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>> When sending the response to the client, e.g., a service-specific
> >>>>> authorization response as per NASREQ AA-Answer [RFC7155], the
> >>>>> server MUST include all Session-Group-Info AVPs as received in the
> client's request.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]]  in the present case, it can only be "authorization". And,
> >>>> as it is "e.g." it is
> >>> fine to say "service-specification authorization".
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] We are having trouble parsing the latter part of this sentence.
> >>>>> Please consider whether the suggested update correctly conveys the
> >>>>> intended meaning.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>> In such case, the response to the group command MUST NOT identify
> >>>>> any group but identify solely the single session for which the
> >>>>> command has been processed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>> In such case, the response to the group command MUST NOT identify
> >>>>> any group other than the single session for which the command has
> >>>>> been processed.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] The node can request to process a request for all sessions
> >>>> assigned to
> >>> one or multiple groups identified in the request. But the receiving
> >>> node can decide to treat the request only for the Session-Id included in the
> request.
> >>>>
> >>>> Proposed clarification:
> >>>>
> >>>> OLD:
> >>>>
> >>>>   In such case, the response to the group command MUST
> >>>>   NOT identify any group but identify solely the single session for
> >>>>   which the command has been processed.
> >>>>
> >>>> NEW:
> >>>>
> >>>>  In such case, the response to the group command MUST  NOT include
> >>>> any group identifier but only the Session-Id identifying the
> >>> session for
> >>>>  which the command has been processed.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review each artwork element in the xml file.
> >>>>> Specifically, should any artwork element be tagged as sourcecode
> >>>>> or another element?
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] OK. None of the artwork element should be tagged as sourcecode.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Is the following general guidance for future
> >>>>> registries, or is it guidance for IANA in setting up these two
> >>>>> registries and it should be removed since the registries have
> >>>>> already been
> >>> created?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>> The AVP names can be used as registry names
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] only guidance for IANA. Can be removed when processed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized
> >>>>> or left in their current order?
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] no specific preference. It is actually based on the first
> >>>> occurrence but any
> >>> order would be fine for us.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] We have lowercased "Service-Specific" in the
> >>>>> sentence below, as there are case no occurrences of the
> >>>>> capitalized form used in RFC
> >>> 6733.
> >>>>> Please let us know if you have any conerns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>> As in [RFC6733], the term
> >>>>> Service-Specific below refers to a message defined in a Diameter
> >>>>> application (e.g., Mobile IPv4, NASREQ).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>> As in [RFC6733], the term
> >>>>> 'service-specific' below refers to a message defined in a Diameter
> >>>>> application (e.g., Mobile IPv4, NASREQ).
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] OK!
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] Should Tables 2 and 3 have titles? Please review,
> >>>>> and provide titles if desired. -->
> >>>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] OK! For sake of clarity:
> >>>>
> >>>> OLD:
> >>>>
> >>>> Table 2
> >>>>
> >>>> NEW:
> >>>>
> >>>> Table 2: Group Authorization Session State Machine for Stateful
> >>>> Client
> >>>>
> >>>> OLD:
> >>>>
> >>>> Table 3
> >>>>
> >>>> New:
> >>>>
> >>>> Table 3: Group Authorization Session State Machine for Stateful
> >>>> Server
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] How should the following acronyms that appear in
> >>>>> Tables 2 and 3 be expanded?  Would it be helpful to include text
> >>>>> that precedes Tables 2 and 3 to define the expansions of these acronyms?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> GASR
> >>>>> GASA
> >>>>> GSTA
> >>>>> GSTR
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] it would not arm to list all of them:
> >>>>
> >>>> GASR: Group-Abort-Session-Request
> >>>> GASA: Group-Abort-Session-Answer
> >>>> GSTA: Group-Session-Termination-Answer
> >>>> GSTR: Group-Session-Termination-Request
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology
> >>>>> appears to be used inconsistently.  Please review these
> >>>>> occurrences and let us now if/how they may be made consistent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> result code vs. Result-Code
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] No inconsistency here. "result code" is a value. "Result-Code" is the
> AVP.
> >>>>
> >>>>> re-authorization request vs. Re-Authorization Request (RAR)
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] OK!
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of
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> >>>>
> >>>> [[LM]] only one occurrence.
> >>>>
> >>>> OLD:
> >>>>
> >>>> Newly defined Diameter applications may natively support Diameter
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> >>>>
> >>>> NEW:
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> >>>> there is no need of a specific discovery mechanism for the support
> >>>> of session grouping capability besides the discovery of the
> >>>> Application Id assigned to the application advertised during the
> >>>> capability exchange phase described in Section 5.3 of [RFC6733].
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RFC Editor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 24, 2023, at 10:05 AM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/%2Fauthors%2Frfc9390-rfcdiff.html&data=05%7C01%7
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tracking progress
> >>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The details of the AUTH48 status of your document are here:
> >>>>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
> >>>>> http://www.rfc-/
> editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9390&data=05%7C01%7Clionel.morand
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please let us know if you have any questions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your cooperation,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RFC Editor
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------------------------------------
> >>>>> RFC9390 (draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-14)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Title            : Diameter Group Signaling
> >>>>> Author(s)        : M. Jones, M. Liebsch, L. Morand
> >>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Jouni Korhonen, Lionel Morand
> >>>>> Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Robert Wilton
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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