Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Mon, 16 February 2015 08:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913
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WG, I decided that the WG recommendation for this Errata is HELD FOR DOCUMENT UPDATE. The reason is that there is ongoing work both in AVTCORE (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-petithuguenin-avtcore-rfc5764-mux-fixes/) and in TRAM WG (With TURN IANA rules) in regards to this Errata. Cheers Magnus Westerlund On 2015-01-29 13:29, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > Sorry, for confusing you. > > I already sent another email on this. Lets go with the previous emails > Held for Document Update. > > /Magnus > > On 2015-01-29 13:28, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >> WG, >> >> Based on this discussion it appears that the conclusion was to Reject >> this errata. We have ongoing document work that will address this issue, >> so approving it would be to get ahead of that work. Secondly, held for >> document update appears possible, but also unnecessary now that the work >> actually is happening. >> >> So this will be requested to be rejected by the AD, unless someone >> speaks up before the 13th of February. >> >> Cheers >> >> Magnus >> WG chair >> >> On 2014-05-05 08:41, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >>> On 2014-05-02 19:10, Martin Thomson wrote: >>>> On 2 May 2014 01:26, Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote: >>>>> 1. To any in the WG: Do you really think there is an issue of >>>>> restricting STUN to 128 methods per class per existing RFC? >>>> >>>> This is an alternative to what I proposed, which would leave 5764 >>>> alone. You need to make some allowance for this though: >>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/stun-parameters/stun-parameters.xhtml#stun-parameters-2 >>>> (Note the range 0x800-0xFFF, which is currently unused) >>> >>> >>> Yes, and from my personal position, I think it is fine to leave RFC 5764 >>> alone here. The 128 methods per class should be sufficient. >>> >>> But I do agree that we should work to ensure that these limitations are >>> reflected in STUN's IANA section. >>> >>>> >>>>> 2. To Martin: What made you think there was an error in RFC 5764? >>>> >>>> This: >>>> >>>>> Formally this is a value overlap between what STUN could potentially use >>>>> (0-63) and what DTLS can potentially use 20-63. >>>> >>>> I don't think that it's quite fair to say that it's a fault of STUN. >>>> STUN was there first, so arguably the fault lies with RFC 5764. >>> >>> Agreed, but it was a decision that was discussed in the community when >>> it happened. >>> >>>> >>>> As I said, it's a minor issue. There doesn't seem to be any need for >>>> the overlap, so it's probably safe to retroactively change the rules >>>> for STUN method registrations. >>>> >>> >>> I also think so. And, I think the minimal work needed here is to address >>> STUN's IANA rules within the TRAM WG, not also change values in RFC >>> 5764. Therefore I would like to reject this Errata. >>> >>> I will give everyone two weeks to think this over and object against my >>> proposal to reject the errata. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Magnus Westerlund >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 >>> Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 >>> SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance >>> avt@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt >>> >> >> > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 Martin Thomson
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 Dale R. Worley
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Martin Thomson
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 (Errata 3913) Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 (Errata 3913) Dale R. Worley
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 (Errata 3913) Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund