Re: [babel] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-babel-rfc6126bis-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Tue, 07 January 2020 19:17 UTC

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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
To: Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
Cc: "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>, "draft-ietf-babel-rfc6126bis@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-babel-rfc6126bis@ietf.org>, Babel at IETF <babel@ietf.org>, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>
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> Also note that my point is not about interoperability but about safety.

I'm confused.

Interoperability is about different implementations interoperating without
endangering the integrity of the network.  What definition of safety do
you propose that is not covered by that?

In short -- what technical problem do you want us to solve that you have
witnessed with the three existing interoperable implementations of Babel,
or that you foresee with a future implementation?

-- Juliusz