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Re: [BEHAVE] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1-01: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com> Wed, 24 June 2015 15:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1-01: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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OK, our messages crossed. I will take no further actions other than 
making sure the copyright date is fixed.

Tom

On 24/06/2015 8:10 AM, Benoit Claise wrote:
> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2015 04:51, "Benoit Claise" <bclaise@cisco.com
>> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Tom,
>> >
>> >> Yes, I believe so. If the RFC Ed. doesn't pick up the copyright
>> thing, it can be fixed in AUTH48.
>> >>
>> >> Reviewing the IESG evaluation, I note the suggestion to leave out
>> the MIB module definition itself and just have text saying (as Joel
>> suggested) that all objects are deprecated. Would people agree to
>> that? That would eliminate my fiddling with syntax to eliminate
>> SMILINT warnings.
>>
> Forgot to reply to this one.
> I believe the draft makes sense as done right now.
> People might want to extract all MIB modules from RFC and load them all.
> This way, they would directly see in their MIB browser that the MIB
> objects are deprecated.
>
> Regards, Benoit
>>
>> So, two questions -
>>
>> - is the issue that changing the definition while deprecating the
>> objects is strange?
>>
>> - if the document just said "all objects are deprecated", would the
>> resulting MIB modules still produce SMILINT warnings?
>>
>> Obviously, I'm wondering if the right answer is to leave the syntax
>> unchanged, and point out that the syntax generates SMILINT warnings
>> whether the objects are deprecated or not, but since all this document
>> is doing is deprecating objects, the syntax is left unchanged, and
>> anyone who implements the V1 MIB now will have bigger problems than
>> the SMILINT warnings, but I don't know that's the right answer.
>>
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