Re: [BLISS] Comments on draft-procter-bliss-call-park-extension-04 (AutoRetrieve proposal)

Michael Procter <michael@voip.co.uk> Sat, 25 April 2009 06:28 UTC

Return-Path: <michael@voip.co.uk>
X-Original-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBC93A6947 for <bliss@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.977
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wXjlHdLb2fEz for <bliss@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from na3sys009aog113.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog113.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.209]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CD043A680A for <bliss@ietf.org>; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from source ([209.85.220.164]) by na3sys009aob113.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSfKt4RrG08ALdT5FHU/JVyj1dh27O3qy@postini.com; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:29:54 PDT
Received: by mail-fx0-f164.google.com with SMTP id 8so1559636fxm.18 for <bliss@ietf.org>; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.103.92.10 with SMTP id u10mr1814294mul.22.1240640993296; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1DA436E8@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com>
References: <F592E36A5C943E4E91F25880D05AD1140937CB3E@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> <a2ef85430904240846k3a301efk4302165a3d9eded1@mail.gmail.com> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1DA436E8@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:29:53 +0100
Message-ID: <a2ef85430904242329p1baf3fa4o7e366d9a3f7a928c@mail.gmail.com>
From: Michael Procter <michael@voip.co.uk>
To: Francois Audet <audet@nortel.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: bliss@ietf.org, Scott Orton <orton@nortel.com>
Subject: Re: [BLISS] Comments on draft-procter-bliss-call-park-extension-04 (AutoRetrieve proposal)
X-BeenThere: bliss@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Basic Level of Interoperability for SIP Services \(BLISS\) BoF" <bliss.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss>, <mailto:bliss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/bliss>
List-Post: <mailto:bliss@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bliss-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss>, <mailto:bliss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:28:35 -0000

2009/4/24 Francois Audet <audet@nortel.com>:
> On the firest part, you are correct, it's not new protocol.
>
> But a default timer, and a paragraph on Auto-Retrieve is
> exactly the type of information that is appropriate for
> an INFORMATIONAL draft.
>
> Introducing phones that don't have an Auto-retrieve feature
> for call park will cause significant headaches in the real world.

What, exactly, does a phone have to do to have an 'Auto-retrieve'
feature?  As far as I can tell, all the service policy you have
described so far is for the park server, not the phone.

Michael