[Bridge-mib] RE: VLAn ID

My apologies - I had forgotten about this. I will start a ballot forthwith.

Regards,
Tony

At 08:05 07/05/2003 +0100, Les Bell wrote:

>This was discussed at the March meeting.  The decision was to conduct an email
>'ballot' to determine if anyone had any objections to using 4095 as a wildcard
>VLAN ID.  I have not heard about the details of how, or when, this will take
>place.
>
>Les...
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>"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> on 06/05/2003 18:43:42
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>Sent by:  "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
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>To:   Les Bell/GB/3Com, Andrew Smith <ah_smith@acm.org>
>cc:   "'Wijnen, Bert , "'Bridge-Mib , mibs@ops.ietf.org
>Subject:  RE: VLAn ID
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>Les, Did you get any feedback after that March 9th meeting?
>If not, Can you poll Mick Seaman?
>
>Thanks,
>Bert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Les Bell [mailto:Les_Bell@eur.3com.com]
> > Sent: vrijdag 28 februari 2003 17:27
> > To: Andrew Smith
> > Cc: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; 'Bridge-Mib (E-mail)'; mibs@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: VLAn ID
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > I have asked for the opinion of the IEEE 802.1 Task Force
> > Chair, Mick Seaman, on
> > this proposal.  He believes that the use of 4095 as a
> > wildcard VLAN-ID would be
> > okay, but he wants to discuss it formally at the IEEE 802
> > meeting in Dallas
> > (week commencing March 9).  I will be attending this meeting.
> >
> > Les...
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> > "Andrew Smith" <ah_smith@acm.org> on 27/02/2003 17:53:56
> >
> > Sent by:  "Andrew Smith" <ah_smith@acm.org>
> >
> >
> > To:   "'Wijnen, Bert \
> > cc:   "'Bridge-Mib \, mibs@ops.ietf.org (Les Bell/GB/3Com)
> > Subject:  RE: VLAn ID
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bert,
> >
> > The whole point of defining these TCs in a separate document
> > is to serve
> > "possible future (yet-undefined) needs" - why else would we bother to
> > break them out in a separate document or module?
> >
> > The need to use VlanIdOrAny as an index in the future seems likely to
> > me. It is especially likely if you believe that we're trying to set a
> > precedent here for how to represent "some sort of packet field or
> > don't-care". Personally, I think it's a bit clunky to
> > overload the value
> > like this - a separate flag object is more elegant, but, if we're
> > comfortable with the overloading, I'd go with Randy and say (as I did
> > before - maybe you missed my message?) that the syntax here should be
> > unsigned, not signed (I understand the practical reasons for the
> > non-negative-index restriction in SNMP but it is a limitation on the
> > SMIv2 language). I don't think there's a need to consult with IEEE 802
> > on this - I think most of the people with relevant opinions
> > on this are
> > already on this thread - but that's the bridge-mib WG chair's
> > call if he
> > wants to ask himself for help.
> >
> > My opinions (I know you're looking for others though ...).
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-mibs@ops.ietf.org
>[mailto:owner-mibs@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf
>Of Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:36 AM
>To: Randy Presuhn (E-mail)
>Cc: Bridge-Mib (E-mail); mibs@ops.ietf.org
>Subject: VLAn ID
>
>
>Randy, you wrote:
> >To:   bridge-mib@ietf.org
> >cc:   mibs@ops.ietf.org (Les Bell/GB/3Com)
> >Subject:  Re: [Bridge-mib] VLAN-ID
> >
> >Hi -
> >
> >I think it would be better if the "any" value in the *OrAny TC were
> >a non-negative value so that the type could be used to define an
> >index.  There may not be a need today, but thinking ahead to
> >representing policy-like things wouldn't hurt.
> >
>
>As far as I can tell, you seem to be the only one sofar who
>has spoken up on the idea of not having a negative value
>for the "any" for the VlanIdOrAny TC that I proposed.
>
>You do not claim an immediate need, but a possible future
>(yet-undefined) need.
>
>S

Regards,
Tony

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