Re: [Can] The name CAN

[Haoyu Song <[e-mail]>]

Hi all,

I support the vision and also think “traffic steering” might be limiting for the potential of the work. Somehow I feel “CAN” is actually general enough for the purpose. Given the fact that the computing awareness is provided to network for better services, a slight variation might be something like INCA or CAIN where IN means in-network.

Best,
Haoyu

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Subject: Re: [Can] The name CAN

Hi All,
If the name CAN need to change,  I prefer to the names of “CA” with “R” (such as CAR, CARP, CARN, or others). For the CAN work, it is necessary for the network to learn the compute status. After learning the compute status, there can be multiple usages beyond traffic steering, such as visibility of compute and network status for the purpose of fault detection or service provision. IMHO, the scope of the “Traffic Steering”  is a little too specific and it is better to keep some extensibility.


Best Regards,
Zhenbin



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Subject: Re: [Can] The name CAN

I think CATS is a better choice, traffic steering should be mentioned. I wonder if it makes more sense to replace “Traffic Steering” by “Routing”, since the routing work is extremely necessary. As for CARP, “Protocol” can’t cover all of our work.
So we suggest two concepts as below:

  *   CARN: Computing Aware Routing Network
  *   CAR: Computing Aware Routing

     Thanks.

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Xinxin Yi

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发送时间： 2023-02-27 16:06
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Yes, but we have multi-instance based decision at the heart of the traffic steering, so CATS makes sense [cid:image001.jpg@01D94C22.7F4B4A60]

From: Dhruv Dhody <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Sent: 25 February 2023 13:03
To: Erik Kline <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Cc: John Scudder <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; Dirk Trossen <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Can] The name CAN

I like CATS! Both as a name of the proposed WG as well as the actual furry beast :)

BTW SEC also had CAT [1] way back!

Dhruv

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cat/about/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fwg%2Fcat%2Fabout%2F&data=05%7C01%7Chaoyu.song%40futurewei.com%7C268851639d454701b0ec08db1a62ccd2%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638132783876937298%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Q3dpS4XD89jk9qJS7SBGGre%2BbjXROkZ4362pakxmkoI%3D&reserved=0>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 11:05 PM Erik Kline <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Whereas CAT[S]bus already has a non-colliding meaning<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcatbus%26tbm%3Disch&data=05%7C01%7Chaoyu.song%40futurewei.com%7C268851639d454701b0ec08db1a62ccd2%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638132783876937298%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3HKObUUmwpHM7iA9UVk4yrsuJ1yA%2BYNdZIIshDcIQSM%3D&reserved=0>.  =)

SEC has KITTEN, RTG can definitely have CATS.  (+1)

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:08 AM John Scudder <jgs=[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
I had meant to add, the collision with CANbus while not awful, isn’t exactly a desirable thing either.

—John
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