Re: [Can] The name CAN

Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 28 February 2023 20:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Can] The name CAN
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Traffic Steering in the name I can live with.  Routing in the name 
invites misunderstanding about the scope boundaries (even though it is 
clear in the charter) and I recommend against such.

Yours,

Joel


On 2/28/2023 4:30 AM, 易昕昕(联通集团本部) wrote:
> I think CATS is a better choice, traffic steering should be mentioned. 
> I wonder if it makes more sense to replace “Traffic Steering” by 
> “Routing”, since the routing work is extremely necessary. As for CARP, 
> “Protocol” can’t cover all of our work.
> So we suggest two concepts as below:
>
>   * CARN: Computing Aware Routing Network
>   * CAR: Computing Aware Routing
>
>
>  Thanks.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Xinxin Yi
>
>     *发件人:* Dirk Trossen
>     <mailto:dirk.trossen=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>     *发送时间:* 2023-02-27 16:06
>     *收件人:* Dhruv Dhody <mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>; Erik Kline
>     <mailto:ek.ietf@gmail.com>
>     *抄送:* John Scudder <mailto:jgs@juniper.net>; adrian@olddog.co.uk;
>     can@ietf.org
>     *主题:* [警惕!外部邮件]Re: [Can] The name CAN
>
>     Yes, but we have multi-instance based decision at the heart of the
>     traffic steering, so CATS makes sense
>
>     *From:* Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
>     *Sent:* 25 February 2023 13:03
>     *To:* Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
>     *Cc:* John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>; Dirk Trossen
>     <dirk.trossen@huawei.com>; adrian@olddog.co.uk; can@ietf.org
>     *Subject:* Re: [Can] The name CAN
>
>     I like CATS! Both as a name of the proposed WG as well as the
>     actual furry beast :)
>
>     BTW SEC also had CAT [1] way back!
>
>     Dhruv
>
>     [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cat/about/
>
>     On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 11:05 PM Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Whereas CAT[S]bus already has a non-colliding meaning
>         <https://www.google.com/search?q=catbus&tbm=isch>.  =)
>
>         SEC has KITTEN, RTG can definitely have CATS. (+1)
>
>         On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:08 AM John Scudder
>         <jgs=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>             I had meant to add, the collision with CANbus while not
>             awful, isn’t exactly a desirable thing either.
>
>             —John
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