Re: [Captive-portals] Comments on draft-nottingham-capport-problem-00

David Bird <dbird@google.com> Mon, 07 March 2016 17:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Comments on draft-nottingham-capport-problem-00
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Sorry, link was to wrong version:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wkumari-capport-icmp-unreach-01

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:00 AM, David Bird <dbird@google.com> wrote:

> +1 for an ICMP solution ...
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wkumari-capport-icmp-unreach-00
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> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Paul Ebersman <
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>> ddolson> Regarding non-browser clients, even non-HTTP clients, and
>> ddolson> considering this is the IETF, it seems reasonable to find an
>> ddolson> IP-layer solution vs. an HTTP-layer solution.
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>> Indeed... All sorts of phone apps don't use HTTP but need to tickle the
>> reaction.
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