Re: [CCAMP] [Teas] Decision point on scope of draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices

Igor Bryskin <i_bryskin@yahoo.com> Wed, 09 March 2022 22:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [Teas] Decision point on scope of draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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Hi Jeff,
Of course,  there will be many users of network  slicing, I am not arguing that. This obviously can change, and it is wise to keep mind open, I get it, but for whatever reason to date I cannot find in the framework anything that is needed by one of its potential users, say, on-line gaming applications, but is not needed by 5G, it's, as you said, main trigger and beneficiary.


Cheers,Igor

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