Re: [CCAMP] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module again

Daniele,

I'm with Martin here. Can we please focus on having the right content 
and the right feedback, before focusing on the process.

Regards, Benoit
> Martin,
>
> published in CCAMP means to publish it as: draft-vallin-ccamp-alarm-module, i.e. an individual contribution in CCAMP, showing up on CCAMP page, not a CCAMP WG draft.
>
> We never spoke of a straight adoption without any WG polling, IPR declarations and so on.
> Both the Netmod chairs and the routing AD said in their opinion the draft should have been moved to CCAMP and the authors have been copied in all of the email exchanges.
>
> BR
> Daniele (not speaking for both the CCAMP chairs)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:mbj@tail-f.com]
>> Sent: lunedì 9 ottobre 2017 15:40
>> To: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
>> Cc: ccamp@ietf.org; bclaise@cisco.com; draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-
>> module@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module again
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> what was agreed was to have the draft re-published as a CCAMP draft
>>> and then presented at IETF99 during the CCAMP session.
>> Ok, but this was not communicated to the authors.  See the email that I
>> quoted in my last email, to which I never got a reply.
>>
>> Re. re-publishing as CCAMP draft, doesn't the WG first have to formally
>> adopt it?  Maybe the process is different in other WGs, but I'm used to a
>> process where the WG first review the document, then adopt it.
>>
>>> Since none of the two things happened it is quite difficult to have
>>> people in CCAMP noticing it, reviewing it and providing comments.
>> The draft is out there (the individual version), and we would still appreciate
>> feedback on the content!
>>
>>
>> /martin
>>
>>
>>> BR
>>> Daniele
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin
>>>> Bjorklund
>>>> Sent: lunedì 9 ottobre 2017 11:14
>>>> To: ccamp@ietf.org
>>>> Cc: bclaise@cisco.com; draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: [CCAMP] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module again
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We have received quite a lot of emails indicating support for the
>>>> draft "draft- vallin-netmod-alarm-module".  People are asking why
>>>> nothing happens with this draft.
>>>>
>>>> It was decided that CCAMP might be the best place for this draft,
>>>> but since then people have expressed that they rather want NETMOD to
>> work on it.
>>>> I sent this email to CCAMP but never got any feedback:
>>>>
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ccamp/f4qUNkpsT5dVF_1l9Ibd3hH1
>>>> Y
>>>> A4/?qid=2187bb6a3443f12d15a29a03486f0754
>>>>
>>>> It would be much appreciated if anyone in CCAMP that are also
>>>> working on the generic alarm functionality in ITU could send feedback on
>> this document.
>>>> The document can be found here:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /martin
>>>>
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