Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-25: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Ben Niven-Jenkins <ben@niven-jenkins.co.uk> Thu, 19 May 2016 01:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-25: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Ben C, > On 19 May 2016, at 01:51, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote: > > On 18 May 2016, at 18:38, Ben Niven-Jenkins wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> I’ll let the authors respond to most of your comments but I wanted to respond to one of them, see below. >> >>> On 18 May 2016, at 23:32, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote: >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> DISCUSS: >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - 7.3: "Making detailed CDNI logging >>> information known to the uCDN does not represent a particular privacy >>> concern because the uCDN is already exposed at request redirection >>> time to most of the information that shows up as CDNI logging >>> information (e.g., enduser IP@, URL, HTTP headers - at least when >>> HTTP redirection is used between uCDN and dCDN)." >>> >>> I agree this is mostly true for HTTP redirection. But as you mention, the >>> assertion seems to fall down for DNS redirection, where the uCDN may have >>> considerably less information. I think some different guidance for that >>> case may be needed. >> >> True, but…making detailed CDNI logging information known to the uCDN does not expose any more information to the uCDN than if the uCDN had chosen to perform the content delivery itself. >> >> Typically when entity A contracts out work to entity B, entity A is entitled to see all records produced by entity B on entity A’s behalf. > > That may be a reasonable argument (I will let the thread from Stephen's comment play out), but that's not the argument the draft makes. Agreed. > If there are arguments that apply to DNS redirection (such as the one you mention), I think they should be included. Agreed. Ben
- [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-… Ben Campbell
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Campbell
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Ben Campbell
- Re: [CDNi] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-c… Francois Le Faucheur