Re: [Cfrg] Curve manipulation, revisited
Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Tue, 30 December 2014 17:34 UTC
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On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> wrote: > I think you can avoid this slippery slope by the CFRG recommending Curve25519 as one of potentially many curves at a 128-bit security level, for now, as an interim solution, simply to avoid the current situation of apparent infinite deadlock. No, please no. An "interim solution" signature algorithm is stillborn. Few people would want to take the operational effort to create *and maintain* keys for an interim solution when the current solution (P256) is good enough. If the CFRG cannot come to an agreement on a curve, a signature algorithm, and the necessary format additions, for 128-strength ECC, it should tell the IETF so as soon as possible. Stretching this out with interim values and half-solutions will be worse than claiming defeat. --Paul Hoffman
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