Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requirements-02
Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Mon, 24 January 2011 20:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requirements-02
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Hi Christian: I can understand your frustration, and to some extent I share it. However, the purpose of a WGLC is to bring up issues that the editors have missed or not acted upon. So let's bring them up. All: The tracker is supposed to be one organized form of keeping issues alive and make sure that they have been addressed adequately. The tracker can be found at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/codec/trac/report. I believe that most requirements-related issues have been entered into the tracker in some form, although, in order to see whether an issue has been addressed according to the WG consensus or to get a full picture of all issues, one would have to review the mailing list as well. But the tracker is a good starting point. Thanks, Stephan From: Christian Hoene <hoene@uni-tuebingen.de> Organization: Universitat Tubingen Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:35 +0100 To: 'Stephen Botzko' <stephen.botzko@gmail.com> Cc: <codec@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requirements-02 Christian - perhaps you could post a list of the issues you see that haven't been addressed? [Christian Hoene] No Stephen, these issues have been written down in previous emails, drafts and issues in the Trac. They can be read by anybody anytime. Thus, I do not see any benefit of repeating them again if the editors continue to ignore any input. Indeed, they did not improve the draft despite sound technical reasons. Even if somebody is not fully involved in the technical details: It is very odd that despite many hundreds emails and many discussions since starting this WG the editors have not updated the draft beside minor changes such as the boilerplate and typos. Even if the lack of any update was not intentionally, the editors missed to do their job because they were too lazy or rather too busy doing other thinks. I would be sad if all the fruitful discussions here and all the good contributions of many industry experts should have been in vain. Even if not all requirements can be met by Opus, a proper requirements document may be relevant for future solutions or other SDOs. CH _______________________________________________ codec mailing list codec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec
- [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requireme… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Mary Barnes
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Elwell, John
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requi… Mary Barnes