Re: [conex] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-mech-04.txt

Bob Briscoe <bob.briscoe@bt.com> Wed, 05 December 2012 10:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [conex] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-mech-04.txt
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Marcelo and the ConEx list (including authors of affected drafts),

All these emails relate to the same screwed up IPR disclosure, which 
was actually meant to be good news.

This disclosure has been screwed up - our IPR dept sent text to the 
IETF IPR people by email, who must have then transcribed it wrongly 
into the form - omitting the actual licensing text sent by BT's lawyer.

It was intended to offer a royalty-free license under terms unchanged 
from the original IPR declaration for re-ECN 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/651/>, which this declaration was 
meant to update solely by adding more drafts and more patents.

I have asked for the omitted license text to be added urgently.

I have been asking for an update to this declaration since March 2011 
(!!!). It has been frustrating for me, because I couldn't say in 
advance what terms would be applied in the updated declaration, 
because the lawyers (rightly) require that only they can state BT's 
licensing terms.

It has taken this long because the IETF IPR process first required 
each draft to be declared individually, then when the IETF admitted 
that all the drafts could be on one form, the form couldn't handle 
the number of drafts, so the tools team had to modify the form software.

Although I never expected it to take this long, I kept everyone 
informed about this:
* to the ConEx list and in my presentations during the ConEx BoFs (2010)
* to the ConEx chairs and concepts-uses authors in response to a 
question from Nandita when concepts uses went to the IESG (26 Mar 2012)


Bob

At 06:41 05/12/2012, marcelo bagnulo braun wrote:
>and the last one (for now at least)
>
>
>-------- Mensaje original --------
>Asunto:         IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's 
>statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-mech-04.txt
>Fecha:  Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:56:49 -0800
>De:     IETF Secretariat <ietf-ipr@ietf.org>
>Para:   mattmathis@google.com, bob.briscoe@bt.com
>CC:     wes@mti-systems.com, martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu, 
>marcelo@it.uc3m.es, nanditad@google.com, conex@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org
>
>
>
>Dear Matt Mathis, Bob J. Briscoe:
>
>  An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Congestion
>Exposure (ConEx) Concepts and Abstract Mechanism" (draft-ietf-conex-abstract-
>mech) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2012-11-22 and has 
>been posted on
>the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
>(https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1922/). The title of the IPR disclosure is
>"British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-
>conex-abstract-mech-04.txt."");
>
>The IETF Secretariat
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Bob Briscoe,                                BT Innovate & Design