Re: [dane] S/MIME draft

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Tue, 26 August 2014 15:41 UTC

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On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Osterweil, Eric <eosterweil@verisign.com> wrote:

> A few of us felt that it might be productive to outline a set of requirements that we foresee DANE facing in enterprises environments (w.r.t. encrypted/signed email).  To that end, we put together the draft:
> 	``Enterprise Requirements for Secure Email Key Management''
> 	http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-osterweil-dane-ent-email-reqs-00

Although you are using DANE for that, the general topic is email-end-to-end. You might therefore want to instead discuss the principles on the "endymail" mailing list that Stephen Farrell just announced yesterday on the SAAG list; see below.

--Paul Hoffman



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
> Subject: [saag] new list for discussion of end-to-end email security/privacy improvements
> Date: August 25, 2014 at 11:20:41 AM PDT
> To: "saag@ietf.org" <saag@ietf.org>
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Following on from discussion in Toronto in appaswg and saag,
> and a subsequent request, we've created a mailing list for
> discussing this topic. Pete Resnick and I will initially
> manage the list. If you're interested, please subscribe.
> Once Pete and I figure there's a good enough set of folks
> subscribed we'll fire off a starter email. That usually takes
> a few days, so probably Wed-Thu this week.
> 
> The list [1] description is:
> 
> There is significant interest in improving the
> privacy-related properties of Internet mail. One focus of
> current efforts is on the per-hop (connection-based)
> protections provided by TLS. However a wide range of other
> work has a focus on end-to-end protection, at the Internet
> scale of billions of end users and perhaps millions of
> operators. Such work typically involves new forms of mail
> header or body protection, new public key management
> (compared to S/MIME or PGP), and security mechanisms more
> appropriate for mobile/web user-agents. Other
> security-relevant approaches may be discussed if needed.
> Various proposals and development efforts on this topic are
> underway outside the IETF. This mailing list provides an
> IETF venue for discussion of elements that might be commonly
> needed by such efforts and to identify work that the IETF
> could do to aid in achieving better end-to-end security
> deployed for Internet email.
> 
> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> [1] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/endymail