Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115

"Vixie, Paul" <upavixie@amazon.com> Thu, 22 December 2022 17:10 UTC

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From: "Vixie, Paul" <upavixie@amazon.com>
To: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Thread-Topic: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115
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Subject: Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115
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Paul Vixie
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-----Original Message-----
From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 19:59
To: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "dbound@ietf.org" <dbound@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115

    There's a different much harder but potentially more interesting problem, 
    how can you tell that two sibling are under the same management, with 
    typical examples being google.com, gmail.com, and 1e100.com.  I don't know 
    any way to do that without needing vast numbers of new RRs all over the 
    DNS tree.

I think similarity in the SOA RNAME, or the content of an apex RP RR (*), could be used by zone administrators who wanted that level of organizational transparency. Most zone administrators in today's Internet do not want that kind of transparency since it might increase their accountability.

If some team wants to work on this I think that's great. I agree to review drafts if so. But that's a separate topic from the driving forces behind a WG restart for DBound.

(*) https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1183#section-2.2