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Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115

"Vixie, Paul" <upavixie@amazon.com> Thu, 22 December 2022 01:17 UTC

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From: "Vixie, Paul" <upavixie@amazon.com>
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115
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I think your (John Levine) draft from 2016 was just about perfect and needs merely to be resubmitted and fine tuned. The full-download purpose can be fulfilled by a PSL-like team who can hopefully just sweep designated DNS apexes and build a catalogue. Various passive DNS teams may also wish to produce catalogues.

My read is, there is very little controversy, and a more (not less) unified problem space.

-- 
Paul Vixie
VP & Distinguished Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:56

    ...

    It would be a good idea to look at what dbound did last time and see if
    we think it's likely to make more progress than id did last time.

    We had three drafts last time, two from Casey and me proposing similar
    DNS based proposals, and one from Gervase that formalized the existing
    text PSL.

    At the hard-to-hear BOF I heard that for some applications, people would
    be interested in a DNS approach, for others, which I think included all
    of the ones in browsers, DNs was a non-starter because of the added delay.

    So it seems like either we rule out some of the heaviest uses, or we
    have to invent something that doesn't exist yet.

    R's,
    John

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