Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 22 December 2022 03:34 UTC

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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:34:00 -0500
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Subject: Re: [dbound] BoF request for IETF 115
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John

I see this as two different problem spaces - one the PSL type object.

But the problem I've struggled with (and perhaps what Paul V is thinking
of) is "how can I prove
that this set of domains belong to the same business organization as this
primary domain"?

(please correct if I'm wrong).

I think the latter problem is more in line with the ideas of john's 2016
draft.

tim


On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:11 PM John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> > I think your (John Levine) draft from 2016 was just about perfect and
> needs merely to be resubmitted and fine tuned. The full-download purpose
> can be fulfilled by a PSL-like team who can hopefully just sweep designated
> DNS apexes and build a catalogue. Various passive DNS teams may also wish
> to produce catalogues.
>
> Take another look at my draft.  If we expect each TLD to publish its own
> dbound records, it's not practical to extract them mechanically from the
> zone.  I suppose I coould tweak it and put in some links to make the lower
> level records easier to find, but that's one of those things that doesn't
> exist yet that I referred to.
>
> I think Casey's design has the same problem.
>
> >
> > My read is, there is very little controversy, and a more (not less)
> unified problem space.
> >
> >
>
> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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