Re: [dhcwg] recommendation on DHCP6 source port numbers

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Thu, 29 February 2024 16:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] recommendation on DHCP6 source port numbers
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> On Feb 29, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Robert Nagy <rob@deepdivenetworking.com> wrote:
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> +1 to David’s suggestion. I as well have never found this ambiguous but I do see why people might. IMNHO we dictate the service ports things are sent to (hence listen on) whereas what clients and servers use for source ports is open to implementation  

  I am a strong believer in laying things out explicitly.  If there is confusion on this list, I hate to think what the average implementor is going through.

  Implementation-defined behaviour in core protocols should be strongly discouraged.

  Alan DeKok.