Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-dhc-subscriber-id-X.txt
Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> Fri, 06 February 2004 13:34 UTC
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To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
cc: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>, dhcwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-dhc-subscriber-id-X.txt
In-Reply-To: Message from mellon@fugue.com of "Thu, 05 Feb 2004 18:10:14 CST." <D6686711-5838-11D8-A6E8-000A95D9C74C@fugue.com>
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From: Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>
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Hi Ted. > On Feb 5, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Ralph Droms wrote: > > If a document based on this draft becomes an IETF standard > > PacketFront is > > prepared to license, on reasonable and non-discriminatory terms, > > any > > related PacketFront patents to the extent required to comply with > > the standard. > > This new IPR statement is compatible with the text in section 10.3.2(C) > > of RFC 2026, and with similar IPRs on other IETF documents. Are there > > any objections now to resuming consideration of > > draft-ietf-dhc-subscriber-id-05.txt as a Proposed Standard? > Yes. I object, unless PacketFront states that they are willing to > license this for free to people who agree to cross-license. This > functionality doesn't deserve a patent, and isn't useful enough to > merit advancing since it is encumbered by patent applications. Note: each WG member needs to decide for themselves whether or not to support advancement of this spec based on whatever concerns (including IPR) they have. But I at least would like to understand why Ted (and others?) believe that the above terms should be required before advancing this document, when other DHC documents also with IPR terms that are not "free" have apparently not raised a similar concern. That is, what are the issues that make this case different than others? I think it would be good to understand what the general criteria would be, as the issue will likely come up again in the future (that is unfortunately the reality). E.g., see http://www.ietf.cnri.reston.va.us/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-ietf-dhc-server-override.txt Thomas _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-dhc-s… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Mark Stapp
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Bud Millwood
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… John Schnizlein
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Kim Kinnear
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Mark Stapp
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Barr Hibbs
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Mark Stapp
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Bernie Volz
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Barr Hibbs
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Bernie Volz
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Bernie Volz
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Barr Hibbs
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Barr Hibbs
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] IPR statement related to draft-ietf-d… Ralph Droms