Re: [dhcwg] WG Adoption Call - draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy & draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy

"Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> Thu, 05 February 2015 12:03 UTC

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From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
To: Leaf Yeh <leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [dhcwg] WG Adoption Call - draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy & draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy
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Yes, these documents will most likely end up as informational - this can be fixed when published as wg docs.

- Bernie (from iPad)

On Feb 5, 2015, at 5:39 AM, Leaf Yeh <leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com<mailto:leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com>> wrote:

Bernie - I believe these would be Informational as they will not propose anything to implement. … Other drafts being worked on will document how one might mitigate some or all of these privacy concerns.

I‘ve read draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy. Have we got any output on the requirement for the DHCPv6 client implementation? Do we believe the DUID of DHCPv6 client (or even IAID) should not be a permanent ‘stable’ identifier? and they should have no relation with the MAC address of the client?


Best Regards,
Leaf



From: Bernie Volz (volz) [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:52 PM
To: Leaf Yeh; dhcwg@ietf.org<mailto:dhcwg@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] WG Adoption Call - draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy & draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy

I believe these would be Informational as they will not propose anything to implement.

They presently are specified as being Standards Track – we would probably want to make sure they are adopted as Informational.

Other drafts being worked on will document how one might mitigate some or all of these privacy concerns.


-          Bernie

From: Leaf Yeh [mailto:leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:43 PM
To: Bernie Volz (volz); dhcwg@ietf.org<mailto:dhcwg@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] WG Adoption Call - draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy & draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy

Q: Will these 2 drafts be put into standard track?


Best Regards,
Leaf


From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Volz (volz)
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 2:38 AM
To: dhcwg@ietf.org<mailto:dhcwg@ietf.org>
Subject: [dhcwg] WG Adoption Call - draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy & draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy


Hello:



During the Honolulu IETF-91 meeting, there was consensus to adopt the following documents as working group items:

draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy-00  Privacy considerations for DHCP

draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy-00      Privacy considerations for DHCPv6



If you do NOT favor the adoption of one or both, please reply to this mail and also state your objections. This adoption call will end on Feb 4, 2015, and unless we hear objections, these documents will be adopted.



You may also indicate your support for adopting them, but because of the WG meeting consensus, this is not necessary.



The HTML version of the documents can be viewed at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jiang-dhc-dhcp-privacy-00 and http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-krishnan-dhc-dhcpv6-privacy-00.



Thanks!



- Tomek & Bernie