Re: [dhcwg] RE: [Mip6] [Updated] DHCP Option for Home Information Discovery inMIPv6

[Vijay Devarapalli <[e-mail]>]

Alper Yegin wrote:
> Gerardo,
> 
> I think it helps to understand the components of the full picture.
> 
> [a] Delivery of the info from home AAA to the NAS
> [b] Delivery of the info from the NAS (DHCP relay) to the DHCP server.
> [c] Delivery of the info from the DHCP server to the DHCP client
> [d] Plumbing of all these components
> 
> 
> [a], [b], and [c] are all protocol work. [d] is just informational. 
> 
> The document draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-integrated-dhc-01.txt covers [b]
> and [d].

section 3.6 and 3.7 of 
draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-integrated-dhc-01.txt seem to describe [c].

Vijay

> 
> WiMAX does not use [b]. For that there is no need to have a normative
> reference to draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-integrated-dhc-01.txt. It could
> have an informative reference to it, but it does not have to.
> 
> Alper
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gerardo Giaretta [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:18 AM
>>To: Alper Yegin
>>Cc: Vijay Devarapalli; [e-mail]; Heejin Jang; [e-mail]
>>Subject: Re: [dhcwg] RE: [Mip6] [Updated] DHCP Option for Home Information
>>Discovery inMIPv6
>>
>>Alper,
>>
>>just one question below in order to understand if there is a real
>>technical reason to keep the docs separated..
>>
>>
>>>>>But I hope this data point helps: WiMAX Forum NWG architecture is
>>
>>using
>>
>>>>>draft-jang.
>>>>
>>>>in what context and how are they planning to use it?
>>>
>>>The MIP info is brought to the DHCP server via RADIUS and delivered to
>>
>>the
>>
>>>MN via DHCP.
>>>
>>
>>Can you please explain which are the technical differences between the
>>solution in the DT draft for integrated scenario and the solution
>>developped in WiMAX?
>>
>>I guess in WiMAX MIP info are brought to DHCP relay (i.e. NAS) and
>>then draft-jang is applied. Is this really different from what is
>>described in the DT draft?
>>
>>--Gerardo
>>
>>
>>>>the
>>>>WiMAX forum NWG can still use the DHCP options wherever
>>>>they are defined.
>>>
>>>Yes. And WiMAX Forum could also use it even if IETF had concatenated all
>>
>>of
>>
>>>the RFCs and I-Ds under a single document too.... This I-D being
>>
>>referenced
>>
>>>whereas the draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-integrated-dhc-01.txt wasn't
>>
>>is a
>>
>>>solid proof that the former I-D is useful without having to be
>>
>>integrated
>>
>>>into the latter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>the only other mechanism is to manually
>>>>>>configure the DHCP servers in the visited link with
>>>>>>information like home agent address, home address and home
>>>>>>prefix. this is a bad idea.
>>>
>>>
>>>You know that one does not have to put DHCP servers on every subnet,
>>
>>instead
>>
>>>one can rely on DHCP relays. And that's the used technique for many
>>>enterprise networks. So, I don't see why this is a bad idea.
>>>
>>>Alper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Vijay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Alper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Vijay Devarapalli [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:17 PM
>>>>>>To: Heejin Jang
>>>>>>Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Mip6] [Updated] DHCP Option for Home Information
>>
>>Discovery
>>
>>>>>>inMIPv6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heejin Jang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello folks,
>>>>>>>We posted an I-D that proposes new DHCP Options for Home
>>
>>Information
>>
>>>>>>>Discovery in MIPv6.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kindly note that the previous version of this draft is
>>>>>>>"draft-jang-dhc-haopt-02.txt" but the name is slightly changed into
>>>>>>>"draft-jang-mip6-hiopt-00.txt" while keeping almost the same
>>
>>contents.
>>
>>>>>>>The drafts referencing this draft such as
>>>>>>>draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-split-02.txt and
>>>>>>>draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-integrated-dhc-01.txt need to be
>>
>>revised
>>
>>>>>>>accordingly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We would appreciate to hear your comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>when this draft was discussed in the MIP6 bootstrapping
>>>>>>design team, many people wanted to integrate the two DHCP
>>>>>>options into
>>>>>>draft-ietf-mip6-bootstrapping-integrated-dhc-01.txt.
>>>>>>this was mainly because the options defined in the document
>>>>>>have limited applicability beyond the integrated scenario
>>>>>>solution document. the only other mechanism is to manually
>>>>>>configure the DHCP servers in the visited link with
>>>>>>information like home agent address, home address and home
>>>>>>prefix. this is a bad idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>there was some opposition and we never reached an agreement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>so I suggest including these options into the integrated
>>>>>>scenario solution document for these options to get
>>>>>>standardized quickly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vijay
>>>>>>
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