Re: [dispatch] New Version Notification for draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-00.txt

Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Sat, 01 April 2023 02:37 UTC

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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 8:11 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:

> It has been a long while since I was working in this area, but I agree
> with Brian.  I can also confirm that Brian knows more about this stuff than
> just about anyone.  ECRIT is definitely the place to take this.
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> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023, at 18:02, Brian Rosen wrote:
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> > I have read this draft.
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> > It is totally lacking context of current and evolving standards in
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> > emergency calling, including:
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> > 1. Basic IETF emergency calling standards
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> > (/RFC4119/RFC5222/RFC5985/RFC6881)
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> > 2. NG911 and NG112 standards that are being deployed, which are based
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> > on the IETF standards
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> > 3. ETSI and ATIS standards that support the above
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> > While I don’t know enough about WiFi or some of the 3GPP standards to
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> > comment on the technical approach in the doc, I am intimately familiar
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> > with what is deployed, and about to be deployed in emergency calling
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> > and this doc can’t begin to get considered until it deals with the
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> > issues associated with the IETF/NENA/EENA/ETSI/ATIS work.
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> > As a really simple start, authors might consider that 9-1-1 is North
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> > America only, while the IETF is world-wide.
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> > Brian
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> >> On Mar 27, 2023, at 12:35 AM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <sgundave=
> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> >>
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> >> Dear All:
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> >>
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> >> Attached is the link to the document on Supporting emergency 911
> services over Wi-Fi. The attached document proposes an approach based on
> WBA's Wi-Fi OpenRoaming and uses many other elements which are already in
> standards.
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> >>
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> >> We are looking for some technical feedback. We believe there is value
> in IETF identifying new methods for improving e911 service access.
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> >>
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> >> Appreciate any feedback.
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> >> Regards
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> >> Sri
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> >> Name: draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi
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> >> Revision: 00
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> >> Title: Emergency 911 Services over Wi-Fi
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> >> Document date: 2023-03-13
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> >> Group: Individual Submission
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> >> Pages: 15
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> >> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-00.txt
> <
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-00.txt
> >
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> >> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/ <
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/>
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> >> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi
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> >> Abstract:
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> >> Proposed is an approach for supporting emergency 911 services over
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> >> IEEE 802.11 based Wi-Fi access networks. This approach leverages the
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> >> legal framework and the building blocks of the OpenRoaming federation
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> >> for extending emergency 911 calling support to already deployed tens
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> >> of thousands of OpenRoaming Wi-Fi hotspots. The proposal addresses
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> >> the key issues in emergency calling, around discovery and
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> >> authentication to access network supporting emergency services,
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> >> emergency access credentials, location determination of the emergency
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> >> caller, and delivering emergency voice service configuration to the
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> >> device and call routing.
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> >> The IETF Secretariat
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