Re: [dns-privacy] Alternative signalling propsals

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Mon, 17 December 2018 21:13 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:12:53 -0500
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Alternative signalling propsals
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:37 PM Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Wes Hardaker wrote:
>
> > cons:
> > - not everyone controls their reverse zone easily, especially for those
> >  that don't hold at least a /24 allocation. Ironically, I fall into
> >  this camp but still think this is a better solution than a name-based
> one.
> > - requires more lookups
>
> Your ISP should support Classless Delegations, RFC 2317
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2317
>
> I have deployed this successfully.
>

Is that a "should" or "SHOULD"? 'cos it certainly isn't a MUST :-P

I've tried contacting my ISPs over the years, and the responses have been:
1: "OK, click Start, then Shutdown... Now press the power key and and we'll
wait for it to boot"
2: "What? Um. Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
3: "What? Huh. Nope, never heard of that."
4: "You are a dynamic customer. We cannot do anything like that for dynamic
customers... Sorry, no we don't do static IPs for residential. Oh! You have
a static subnet routed to you?! Weird, I didn't know we did that... "
5: "Yes, we have plans to support IPv6 in the future...." [no idea what
that has to do with anything ]
6: "We don't allow users to run servers, and so there is no need for you to
have reserve DNS".

Perhaps you've just been lucky and gotten an ISP which sucks less?
W






>
> > - requires the reverse tree for that address be fully signed
>
> That might be tricker, if your upstream ISP does not believe in DNSSEC
> signing.
>
> Paul
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the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf