Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] AD review of draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing-09

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 22 July 2023 23:11 UTC

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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 16:11:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] AD review of draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing-09
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On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 3:27 PM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
wrote:

>
> IF we were serious about the "informational only" status, then we would
>  [...]
>

Disagree. Non-standards track RFCs can have these requirements. For
example, they may be documents never intended for the standards track (in
that they never intend to give the IETF change control), or rejected
alternatives.

This document does exactly what is called for by RFC 7322:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7322#section-4.8.2

thanks,
Rob